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east perth v west perth 4 months 1 week ago #207425

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Archie, not having a go at you or the EP guys who post here because I know you are all die hard EP fans. But - and this is just based on a small sample size - my experience with EP fans is that they loved the alignments when they worked for the club. So 2000-01, they were cock-a-hoop, likewise 2014, but their enthusiasm waned when success fell away. At the same time, the attitude was always, when successful, it was nothing to do with the alignment, and when not successful, solely the fault of the alignment. So my concern is that a lot of EP fans, certainly the more casual ones, will happily accept and rationalise an alignment if they think it benefits the club.

 

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east perth v west perth 4 months 1 week ago #207428

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Ted please the 2 alignments were chalk and cheese,the first one the Eagle players were bit players the second one East Perth players were the bit players because it was a full blown alignment,and i know there's a lot of sour grapes because of the on field success of the first alignment,but they were entirely different models,and the purpose of the first one was to get Micale to the club,while the second one was a cash grab.The first interstate alignment we had on average 5 wet toasters playing weekly the second one 14 to 15 so do you really think i gave 2 hoots when we lost the 2014 GF with them making up 66% of the side????.In the first alignment only Josh Wooden finished in the top 10 fairest and best count in those 2 seasons  and Micale came in and put the finishing touches on a very good squad,which was playing finals and a grand final 3 of the previous 4 seasons, where about 10 players on our list played state football,and i'm a Royals man through and through and never liked the idea of playing ''second banana''in the the 2nd alignment but i understood the rationale behind it which was trying to secure our financial future,even though i was never happy and walked away when we got smashed on Craig Wulffs club games record day when we got pumped by 70 points and vowed not to return back till the alignment was bubbled.

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east perth v west perth 4 months 1 week ago #207429

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Alas, the dreaded alignment rumour resurfaced on this very site just a week or two ago, STT.
The way I look at it, the EPFC has played only 34 games (not even the equivalent of two full WAFL seasons) since the end of the most recent alignment.
The club spent bugger all on recruits in the just-concluded off-season, while all WAFL clubs made a profit last year due to Jobkeeper payments.
So, it's unlikely that East Perth is going down the financial gurgler.
And if the club was, you'd have to seriously question the competency of those controlling the purse strings and making decisions about the Royals' future.
If the Eagles decide to wind up their WAFL club, hopefully they allocate their surplus players evenly amongst all WAFL clubs (with the exception of Peel for obvious reasons).
But stay away from East Perth, West Coast!
   

 

I think these rumours Archie are chinese whispers and only surfacing because Bronte and Nisbet are drinking buddies,and with money in the bank there is absolutely no justification for re- treading down that path.

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east perth v west perth 4 months 1 week ago #207432

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Archie, not having a go at you or the EP guys who post here because I know you are all die hard EP fans. But - and this is just based on a small sample size - my experience with EP fans is that they loved the alignments when they worked for the club. So 2000-01, they were cock-a-hoop, likewise 2014, but their enthusiasm waned when success fell away. At the same time, the attitude was always, when successful, it was nothing to do with the alignment, and when not successful, solely the fault of the alignment. So my concern is that a lot of EP fans, certainly the more casual ones, will happily accept and rationalise an alignment if they think it benefits the club.


 
no disrepect ted but very few non east perth supporters can understand the differences in the two alignments.yes the first one involved premierhips but it was was who got games that mattered.some games involved less then 2-3 eagles players.i could see once a few of the seasoned players retired.after 2014 that the eagles  would try to stack the league side with more rookie players who needed to play  a lot of reserves to get to league standard.this didn't happen.case in point was cat b rookie irishman  paddie brophy who played league from round 1.players who were from the tac under 19's who never against men got league games from the start of the season.any east perth player who lost form were dropped to the reserves yet tom lamb could not be dropped to the ressies because he was a eagle..the second alignment was not going to work except for financial.i said from the start that if we didn't win a premiership in the first two years we wouldn't and that's how it went.i can think of a million reasons why we won't go back.

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east perth v west perth 4 months 1 week ago #207434

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Back to reality and now, the club has a problem and it needs to to fix it but it won't happen this season.

We differ on where the problem lies but given we all support the same team and want it to be successful we better all hope a solution is found and found quickly. If it isn't we have a bigger one next year cos I reckon that what was supposed to happen with the last quisling process will certainly happen at seasons end and no amount of recruiting will fix it!

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No one that I know liked the first alignment but it was a better model for the league.  Financially it didn’t help EP but the second model did. However the second incarnation was more of a takeover. 
I see in team selection nothing much has changed so poor performance is rewarded again. 

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east perth v west perth 4 months 1 week ago #207437

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Being a East Perth & Claremont (mainly reserves) player has assisted Uncle Twevor's career post football and does a go a way unravelling the alignment(s) 
Actually he had 3 or 4 goes at football from memory failed at all of them too

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east perth v west perth 4 months 1 week ago #207438

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Rationalising the first alignment as you guys continue to proves my point. EP fans will rationalise the alignment if it brings success. The drums only starting seriously beating in the second one when you stopped making finals. We have been down this path so many times before. It will never be reconciled, but no WAFL fan other than EP will ever recognise the 00-01 flags as legitimate. So if another alignment happened, and you made finals, but only 8 or so Eagles players played on average, most EP blokes - except Grump - would all be on here saying, yet again, "we only had a handful of Eagles playing, it's all our boys." It's not about the number of players in any given week,. nor how well they play, it's about selling out, irrespective of on-field success.

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Ted every EP supporter I know thinks the 2000 era flags are tainted so I don’t get your argument at all. The opinion of a few forum posters does not reflect the thoughts of the greater supporter base. Your completely wrong if you think success under an alignment made it palatable. 

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east perth v west perth 4 months 1 week ago #207442

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Back to reality and now, the club has a problem and it needs to to fix it but it won't happen this season.

We differ on where the problem lies but given we all support the same team and want it to be successful we better all hope a solution is found and found quickly. If it isn't we have a bigger one next year cos I reckon that what was supposed to happen with the last quisling process will certainly happen at seasons end and no amount of recruiting will fix it!

it is a complex problem.is it coaching?.poor recruiting.player retention?several players have left the club in the last two years.some who would make us a better team are asher samalko,tom gorter,callum hart,jamie rudrem,tom hooper.the last two years we have battled to keep our recruits on the field.last year it was freeman who wasn't replaced..this year watts has missed 6 games.schumacher 5 games,robertson 4 games,and edwards baldwin 3 games.add ramsay who is arguably our best player who has missed 6 games.it has shown up our lack of depth.hopefullly after the bye we might have nearly our best time playing and might eek out a few wins.questions need to be asked at the agm but it needs to be more then about recruiting.

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