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since Heath put the country into the EEC in, the first place, everything has been done by very small margins in parliament; the legislation only passed with the help of labour rebels. There is a brexit majority in Britain: if the country opposed Brexit it would have voted out the Cameron government for even proposing a referendum on the question -- instead his majority went up; this little election result, of course, should have been the warningg sign to any remainers going into the referendum.

as to the liberals, whom would vote for them? Only Euro fanatics, pretending that the party has had a consistent position on Europe. That party has never respected the result of the referendum, and yet, the same great and glorious liberal democrats were the first major party in the country to campaign for an in out referendum on the EU.

The Scots have a lot to answer for, as they have indeed been propping up a Tory government in London. What was that, Salmond was fond of saying 'there are no Tories in Scotland'. She runs a minority government in Scotland herself, although you would not think so given the way the media reports on Edinburgh.

Nick Clegg on Europe:

www.politics.co.uk/news/2008/02/26/lib-d...of-commons-in-eu-row

It seems, our Nick, unlike the PM of the day Brown or Cameron, was completely incapable of accepting that, if such a referendum were put, it could very well lose the day. It is an interesting little article, because it reminds us, that the Blair government did indeed promise a referendum on at least the Lisbon Treaty.

Brexit...the longest suicide in history

it may not happen yet, in which case the note can be stopped.

ArkRoyal wrote: since Heath put the country into the EEC in, the first place, everything has been done by very small margins in parliament; the legislation only passed with the help of labour rebels. There is a brexit majority in Britain: if the country opposed Brexit it would have voted out the Cameron government for even proposing a referendum on the question -- instead his majority went up; this little election result, of course, should have been the warningg sign to any remainers going into the referendum.

as to the liberals, whom would vote for them? Only Euro fanatics, pretending that the party has had a consistent position on Europe. That party has never respected the result of the referendum, and yet, the same great and glorious liberal democrats were the first major party in the country to campaign for an in out referendum on the EU.

The Scots have a lot to answer for, as they have indeed been propping up a Tory government in London. What was that, Salmond was fond of saying 'there are no Tories in Scotland'. She runs a minority government in Scotland herself, although you would not think so given the way the media reports on Edinburgh.

Nick Clegg on Europe:

www.politics.co.uk/news/2008/02/26/lib-d...of-commons-in-eu-row

It seems, our Nick, unlike the PM of the day Brown or Cameron, was completely incapable of accepting that, if such a referendum were put, it could very well lose the day. It is an interesting little article, because it reminds us, that the Blair government did indeed promise a referendum on at least the Lisbon Treaty.

Ark I can't stand that Scottish Priminister.

gtr -- I am with you, but to be fair to her, she represents a large body of people in Scotland. It is her endless moralising on virtually every issue which can be annoying, and her unwillingness to recognise a fundamental flaw in Scottish nationalism: why is the EU less foreign than the UK? Nationalists are suppose to stand alone from everybody.

gtrxuone wrote:

ArkRoyal wrote: since Heath put the country into the EEC in, the first place, everything has been done by very small margins in parliament; the legislation only passed with the help of labour rebels. There is a brexit majority in Britain: if the country opposed Brexit it would have voted out the Cameron government for even proposing a referendum on the question -- instead his majority went up; this little election result, of course, should have been the warningg sign to any remainers going into the referendum.

as to the liberals, whom would vote for them? Only Euro fanatics, pretending that the party has had a consistent position on Europe. That party has never respected the result of the referendum, and yet, the same great and glorious liberal democrats were the first major party in the country to campaign for an in out referendum on the EU.

The Scots have a lot to answer for, as they have indeed been propping up a Tory government in London. What was that, Salmond was fond of saying 'there are no Tories in Scotland'. She runs a minority government in Scotland herself, although you would not think so given the way the media reports on Edinburgh.

Nick Clegg on Europe:

www.politics.co.uk/news/2008/02/26/lib-d...of-commons-in-eu-row

It seems, our Nick, unlike the PM of the day Brown or Cameron, was completely incapable of accepting that, if such a referendum were put, it could very well lose the day. It is an interesting little article, because it reminds us, that the Blair government did indeed promise a referendum on at least the Lisbon Treaty.

Ark I can't stand that Scottish Priminister.

Yeah Sturgeon is annoying, but have you seen the SNP Leader in Westminster - Ian Blackford, what a total windbag.

Dazzler wrote: Brexit...the longest suicide in history

The Longest thing ever...

ArkRoyal wrote: since Heath put the country into the EEC in, the first place, everything has been done by very small margins in parliament; the legislation only passed with the help of labour rebels. There is a brexit majority in Britain: if the country opposed Brexit it would have voted out the Cameron government for even proposing a referendum on the question -- instead his majority went up; this little election result, of course, should have been the warningg sign to any remainers going into the referendum.

as to the liberals, whom would vote for them? Only Euro fanatics, pretending that the party has had a consistent position on Europe. That party has never respected the result of the referendum, and yet, the same great and glorious liberal democrats were the first major party in the country to campaign for an in out referendum on the EU.

The Scots have a lot to answer for, as they have indeed been propping up a Tory government in London. What was that, Salmond was fond of saying 'there are no Tories in Scotland'. She runs a minority government in Scotland herself, although you would not think so given the way the media reports on Edinburgh.

Nick Clegg on Europe:

www.politics.co.uk/news/2008/02/26/lib-d...of-commons-in-eu-row

It seems, our Nick, unlike the PM of the day Brown or Cameron, was completely incapable of accepting that, if such a referendum were put, it could very well lose the day. It is an interesting little article, because it reminds us, that the Blair government did indeed promise a referendum on at least the Lisbon Treaty.

Don't forget the referendum held in the 70s that was an easy win for joining the Common Market. And as a result shafted Australia and its farmers,

bazza: correct, the tories were very unpatriotic and Wilson was a weak bugger, refusing to get behind the leave case, which was the government's policy. Tony Benn did his best together with Paisley, and Powell. They conned the public with the 'it is only a common market line'. I still hear the remainers try the line today.

You ask most Australians though Baz, it will have never occurred to them that it was not and is not in Australia's national interest to have the UK in the EU.

ArkRoyal wrote: bazza: correct, the tories were very unpatriotic and Wilson was a weak bugger, refusing to get behind the leave case, which was the government's policy. Tony Benn did his best together with Paisley, and Powell. They conned the public with the 'it is only a common market line'. I still hear the remainers try the line today.

You ask most Australians though Baz, it will have never occurred to them that it was not and is not in Australia's national interest to have the UK in the EU.

They did their best?

They got thumped - basically 70 to 30%