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Am I missing something here. This has nothing to do with the three strikes policy but Rosich indicated that he has tested positive to an unauthorised pain killer not prescribed by the Club.

It will run its course through ASADA and tha AFL so the shock horror of if all is being overplayed even by Anchorman.

I might be wrong here but is it one strike and you're out for performance enhancing drugs like peptides under ASADA and 3 strikes if its a social drug such as cocaine under AFL rules of racing? Is that the way it works?

Pain killer not per scribed by the club doctor,only himself to blame looking at 15 months going by a similar case in the VFL.

Don't know why you are worried about potshots A/M Crowley did this off his own back .

BC wrote: I might be wrong here but is it one strike and you're out for performance enhancing drugs like peptides under ASADA and 3 strikes if its a social drug such as cocaine under AFL rules of racing? Is that the way it works?

It's a one strike, same as SAAD of St Kilda who bought an "energy" drink at a milk bar. He got 2 years and labelled a drug cheat. Crowley blamed a pain killer which was NOT prescribed by the club doctor. Ignorance is not an excuse. Happened after the Freo vs GWS match on 13th July 2014. Should have been charged before the finals. It doesn't take six weeks to analyse a sample. ( three strikes is for "recreation" drugs.)

Further evidence of the problems with the current code. Yes he is a fool for taking a painkiller not prescribed from his club doctor and will wear the cost most likely for 2 years which will end his career but then you look at a player taking 17 cortisone shots within a week to get up to play on grand final day and you got to ask yourself what is the difference. Both are painkillers at the end of the day and what doctor in his right mind would prescribe 17 cortisone shots within a 7 day period. Can only assume Crowley kicked 12 goals, had 45 possessions and tagged 3 GWS players out of the game such is the performance enhancing effects of these ache tablets. Ignorance is no excuse as I've heard a million times since the EFC scandal broke but 2 years out of a job is a hell of a price to pay for ingesting a painkiller especially when you consider the dangers involved in playing modern day football....one only has to look at injury lists in our sport to understand how much higher the potential for risk is than in most other occupations. Dare to say the players don't receive massive payouts when suffering major injury like in other workplaces because of the negligence of others on the field.

Leather Stops wrote:

BC wrote: I might be wrong here but is it one strike and you're out for performance enhancing drugs like peptides under ASADA and 3 strikes if its a social drug such as cocaine under AFL rules of racing? Is that the way it works?

It's a one strike, same as SAAD of St Kilda who bought an "energy" drink at a milk bar. He got 2 years and labelled a drug cheat. Crowley blamed a pain killer which was NOT prescribed by the club doctor. Ignorance is not an excuse. Happened after the Freo vs GWS match on 13th July 2014. Should have been charged before the finals. It doesn't take six weeks to analyse a sample. ( three strikes is for "recreation" drugs.)

Three strikes is recreational drugs on non game day. It is still one strike for recreational drugs on game day (from memory Wendell Sailor was a one strike recreational because he was tested on gameday).

Barney wrote:

Leather Stops wrote:

BC wrote: I might be wrong here but is it one strike and you're out for performance enhancing drugs like peptides under ASADA and 3 strikes if its a social drug such as cocaine under AFL rules of racing? Is that the way it works?

It's a one strike, same as SAAD of St Kilda who bought an "energy" drink at a milk bar. He got 2 years and labelled a drug cheat. Crowley blamed a pain killer which was NOT prescribed by the club doctor. Ignorance is not an excuse. Happened after the Freo vs GWS match on 13th July 2014. Should have been charged before the finals. It doesn't take six weeks to analyse a sample. ( three strikes is for "recreation" drugs.)

Three strikes is recreational drugs on non game day. It is still one strike for recreational drugs on game day (from memory Wendell Sailor was a one strike recreational because he was tested on gameday).

Correct Barney....one would think that any player testing positive to A & B samples for recreational drugs on game day would be dismissed by his club long before the AFL or indeed ASADA (if they still have any jurisdiction on recreational drug matters) got around to adjudicating on the matter. If a player did infract on game day to recreational substances would he still be protected by the AFL's code of silence and afforded counselling like with the 3 strikes policy or would he be thrown to the wolves via media leaks and or media release? My gut feeling is it would depend on the profile of the individual player and not one standard procedure. Hypothetically speaking if was a Franklin or an Ablett type household name within the game would we ever hear about it? Aside from in the classic aussie movie "the Club" is there any known infractions within either AFL, VFL, WAFL or SANFL history for a player being caught high on recreational drugs on game day. It's hard to imagine there has never been a blemish ever!

Dirty Weekender wrote:

Barney wrote:

Leather Stops wrote:

BC wrote: I might be wrong here but is it one strike and you're out for performance enhancing drugs like peptides under ASADA and 3 strikes if its a social drug such as cocaine under AFL rules of racing? Is that the way it works?

It's a one strike, same as SAAD of St Kilda who bought an "energy" drink at a milk bar. He got 2 years and labelled a drug cheat. Crowley blamed a pain killer which was NOT prescribed by the club doctor. Ignorance is not an excuse. Happened after the Freo vs GWS match on 13th July 2014. Should have been charged before the finals. It doesn't take six weeks to analyse a sample. ( three strikes is for "recreation" drugs.)

Three strikes is recreational drugs on non game day. It is still one strike for recreational drugs on game day (from memory Wendell Sailor was a one strike recreational because he was tested on gameday).

Correct Barney....one would think that any player testing positive to A & B samples for recreational drugs on game day would be dismissed by his club long before the AFL or indeed ASADA (if they still have any jurisdiction on recreational drug matters) got around to adjudicating on the matter. If a player did infract on game day to recreational substances would he still be protected by the AFL's code of silence and afforded counselling like with the 3 strikes policy or would he be thrown to the wolves via media leaks and or media release? My gut feeling is it would depend on the profile of the individual player and not one standard procedure. Hypothetically speaking if was a Franklin or an Ablett type household name within the game would we ever hear about it? Aside from in the classic aussie movie "the Club" is there any known infractions within either AFL, VFL, WAFL or SANFL history for a player being caught high on recreational drugs on game day. It's hard to imagine there has never been a blemish ever!

Like I said recreational on gameday is one strike and a ban. AFL, NRL, A League or any other code don't charge the player, ASADA does and so the codes can't hush it up. Eventually the result of the tribunal is announced by ASADA.

So mid week and out of season recreational drug use ASADA inform and hand over to AFL to deal with until 3 strikes are confirmed but game day infraction is immediately under ASADA's jurisdiction.

Now that is clear I can only wonder what circumstances would arise if a player is caught in possession of recreational drugs and or illicits for that matter on game day even if they aren't in his blood work. Do they then inform the police? Legitimate question when considering where the boundaries of responsibility for the guardians of our game end. Would they be compelled to call police on game days but hand over to the AFL on any other day of the year?

Maybe they should have been checking Benny's bags, pockets and wallet instead of blood/urine a decade ago. Would hate to think what may happen if a satchet bag containing recreational drugs was accidentally dropped from say a wallet in the change rooms by a naughty player or club employee only to be found by one of those sent to randomly test players. Would common sense apply or would the whole team playing that day, coaching staff and medical staff inclusive, cop an infraction if nobody fessed up. Ignorance is no excuse apparently.

Depends... bigfooty is full of ( OPPPPPPPPPS ) "other drug rumors"