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La Hincha wrote: I'm not a SF supporter but 25 frees to 11 does seem a bit harsh.

Hard to believe one side was so perfectly disciplined and the other not so - yet the margin was only 13 points.

I could understand it if it were an U/13 game between two very unevenly matched sides - with one made up of almost complete novices - but in a league game with both teams having 22 players that have played the game at various levels for years and years. I find that very strange and difficult to explain away.

La Hincha it's piss easy to explain. How long have you been watching footy? The obsession on these forums with blaming umpires is unbelievable. Where does it say the count has to be the same. No umpire is biased. Chances are next week the count will be against Perth and we will now to just suck it up. That's how you explain it

Free kicks were 33-8. NOT what they are trying to make us believe. And I reckon we got 4 kicks in the last quarter.

Umpires do make a difference. Are they biased? Dunno really. You say something to them and they bite back and laugh as a group insecurely repeatedly?? Weird stuff.

We lost today because Perth got more roll ons than we did and used it better.

BUT I would put it to any Perth supporter to say that the umpring was fair and just and correctly umpired.

Put your name to it if they were fantastic today.

Not one to normally have a go at umpires but when you see 2 hrs of that and goals given away for non events they had to be held accountable . . . as I told them.

Long story . . . not enough time.

Sacko wrote:

La Hincha wrote: I'm not a SF supporter but 25 frees to 11 does seem a bit harsh.

Hard to believe one side was so perfectly disciplined and the other not so - yet the margin was only 13 points.

I could understand it if it were an U/13 game between two very unevenly matched sides - with one made up of almost complete novices - but in a league game with both teams having 22 players that have played the game at various levels for years and years. I find that very strange and difficult to explain away.

La Hincha it's piss easy to explain. How long have you been watching footy? The obsession on these forums with blaming umpires is unbelievable. Where does it say the count has to be the same. No umpire is biased. Chances are next week the count will be against Perth and we will now to just suck it up. That's how you explain it

Well, explain it then. How did Perth end up with so many free kicks and South Fremantle so few. I wasn't there and would like to know.

La Hincha wrote:

Sacko wrote:

La Hincha wrote: I'm not a SF supporter but 25 frees to 11 does seem a bit harsh.

Hard to believe one side was so perfectly disciplined and the other not so - yet the margin was only 13 points.

I could understand it if it were an U/13 game between two very unevenly matched sides - with one made up of almost complete novices - but in a league game with both teams having 22 players that have played the game at various levels for years and years. I find that very strange and difficult to explain away.

La Hincha it's piss easy to explain. How long have you been watching footy? The obsession on these forums with blaming umpires is unbelievable. Where does it say the count has to be the same. No umpire is biased. Chances are next week the count will be against Perth and we will now to just suck it up. That's how you explain it

Well, explain it then. How did Perth end up with so many free kicks and South Fremantle so few. I wasn't there and would like to know.

I answered it in my first post mate. There is no rule that says the count HAS to be even. Fair dinkum 150 years of footy and that still can't be worked out.

dogman wrote: Free kicks were 33-8. NOT what they are trying to make us believe. And I reckon we got 4 kicks in the last quarter.

Umpires do make a difference. Are they biased? Dunno really. You say something to them and they bite back and laugh as a group insecurely repeatedly?? Weird stuff.

We lost today because Perth got more roll ons than we did and used it better.

BUT I would put it to any Perth supporter to say that the umpring was fair and just and correctly umpired.

Put your name to it if they were fantastic today.

Not one to normally have a go at umpires but when you see 2 hrs of that and goals given away for non events they had to be held accountable . . . as I told them.

Long story . . . not enough time.

The umpiring was a joke, no doubt about it, leaves a lot to be desired and really if the WAFL are going to serve up amateur hour thn no wonder people are voting with heir feet and staying away. The comp is just becoming a low key training circuit.

Sacko wrote:

La Hincha wrote:

Sacko wrote:

La Hincha wrote: I'm not a SF supporter but 25 frees to 11 does seem a bit harsh.

Hard to believe one side was so perfectly disciplined and the other not so - yet the margin was only 13 points.

I could understand it if it were an U/13 game between two very unevenly matched sides - with one made up of almost complete novices - but in a league game with both teams having 22 players that have played the game at various levels for years and years. I find that very strange and difficult to explain away.

La Hincha it's piss easy to explain. How long have you been watching footy? The obsession on these forums with blaming umpires is unbelievable. Where does it say the count has to be the same. No umpire is biased. Chances are next week the count will be against Perth and we will now to just suck it up. That's how you explain it

Well, explain it then. How did Perth end up with so many free kicks and South Fremantle so few. I wasn't there and would like to know.

I answered it in my first post mate. There is no rule that says the count HAS to be even. Fair dinkum 150 years of footy and that still can't be worked out.

The problem is we have too many of them and none of them show any common sense and take each rule to the enth degree instead of having a feel for the game which they don't have, yeh I bet its a difficult job, as you would know being an ex ump, and they have so many rule changes each year its hard to keep up with, but how about some of them take the less is more approach. Our game started well yesterday with both sides missing out on potential free kicks and then just like flicking a switch they started to pick out rubbish that knowone saw including players, they are competing against themselves to get a gig higher up, we are a competitive beast as humans and that's not healthy for umps. They should be seen but not noticed and that will never happen with 3 of them out there IMO

dogman wrote: Free kicks were 33-8. NOT what they are trying to make us believe. And I reckon we got 4 kicks in the last quarter.

Umpires do make a difference. Are they biased? Dunno really. You say something to them and they bite back and laugh as a group insecurely repeatedly?? Weird stuff.

We lost today because Perth got more roll ons than we did and used it better.

BUT I would put it to any Perth supporter to say that the umpring was fair and just and correctly umpired.

Put your name to it if they were fantastic today.

Not one to normally have a go at umpires but when you see 2 hrs of that and goals given away for non events they had to be held accountable . . . as I told them.

Long story . . . not enough time.

I agree mate they do influence results and make a difference, I wouldn't say they are biased to either side out there, though at the time it feels like it I know!

Sacko wrote:

La Hincha wrote:

Sacko wrote:

La Hincha wrote: I'm not a SF supporter but 25 frees to 11 does seem a bit harsh.

Hard to believe one side was so perfectly disciplined and the other not so - yet the margin was only 13 points.

I could understand it if it were an U/13 game between two very unevenly matched sides - with one made up of almost complete novices - but in a league game with both teams having 22 players that have played the game at various levels for years and years. I find that very strange and difficult to explain away.

La Hincha it's piss easy to explain. How long have you been watching footy? The obsession on these forums with blaming umpires is unbelievable. Where does it say the count has to be the same. No umpire is biased. Chances are next week the count will be against Perth and we will now to just suck it up. That's how you explain it

Well, explain it then. How did Perth end up with so many free kicks and South Fremantle so few. I wasn't there and would like to know.

I answered it in my first post mate. There is no rule that says the count HAS to be even. Fair dinkum 150 years of footy and that still can't be worked out.

Ive seen you in action in a 2 ump system and I reckon you would do a 10 times better job than what they have running around now! Because you have a feel for the game

Swandog wrote:

Sacko wrote:

La Hincha wrote:

Sacko wrote:

La Hincha wrote: I'm not a SF supporter but 25 frees to 11 does seem a bit harsh.

Hard to believe one side was so perfectly disciplined and the other not so - yet the margin was only 13 points.

I could understand it if it were an U/13 game between two very unevenly matched sides - with one made up of almost complete novices - but in a league game with both teams having 22 players that have played the game at various levels for years and years. I find that very strange and difficult to explain away.

La Hincha it's piss easy to explain. How long have you been watching footy? The obsession on these forums with blaming umpires is unbelievable. Where does it say the count has to be the same. No umpire is biased. Chances are next week the count will be against Perth and we will now to just suck it up. That's how you explain it

Well, explain it then. How did Perth end up with so many free kicks and South Fremantle so few. I wasn't there and would like to know.

I answered it in my first post mate. There is no rule that says the count HAS to be even. Fair dinkum 150 years of footy and that still can't be worked out.

The problem is we have too many of them and none of them show any common sense and take each rule to the enth degree instead of having a feel for the game which they don't have, yeh I bet its a difficult job, as you would know being an ex ump, and they have so many rule changes each year its hard to keep up with, but how about some of them take the less is more approach. Our game started well yesterday with both sides missing out on potential free kicks and then just like flicking a switch they started to pick out rubbish that knowone saw including players, they are competing against themselves to get a gig higher up, we are a competitive beast as humans and that's not healthy for umps. They should be seen but not noticed and that will never happen with 3 of them out there IMO

Exactly , they just treat it as a stepping stone now and go out there to attention seekers, either that or a training exercise to hon their skills for the big time, they are also way to heavily influenced by what's going on about them, if they get a mindset then that's it, an imbalanced free kick count like that should never happen to that extent.

Bazza wrote:

Swandog wrote:

Sacko wrote:

La Hincha wrote:

Sacko wrote:

La Hincha wrote: I'm not a SF supporter but 25 frees to 11 does seem a bit harsh.

Hard to believe one side was so perfectly disciplined and the other not so - yet the margin was only 13 points.

I could understand it if it were an U/13 game between two very unevenly matched sides - with one made up of almost complete novices - but in a league game with both teams having 22 players that have played the game at various levels for years and years. I find that very strange and difficult to explain away.

La Hincha it's piss easy to explain. How long have you been watching footy? The obsession on these forums with blaming umpires is unbelievable. Where does it say the count has to be the same. No umpire is biased. Chances are next week the count will be against Perth and we will now to just suck it up. That's how you explain it

Well, explain it then. How did Perth end up with so many free kicks and South Fremantle so few. I wasn't there and would like to know.

I answered it in my first post mate. There is no rule that says the count HAS to be even. Fair dinkum 150 years of footy and that still can't be worked out.

The problem is we have too many of them and none of them show any common sense and take each rule to the enth degree instead of having a feel for the game which they don't have, yeh I bet its a difficult job, as you would know being an ex ump, and they have so many rule changes each year its hard to keep up with, but how about some of them take the less is more approach. Our game started well yesterday with both sides missing out on potential free kicks and then just like flicking a switch they started to pick out rubbish that knowone saw including players, they are competing against themselves to get a gig higher up, we are a competitive beast as humans and that's not healthy for umps. They should be seen but not noticed and that will never happen with 3 of them out there IMO

Exactly , they just treat it as a stepping stone now and go out there to attention seekers, either that or a training exercise to hon their skills for the big time, they are also way to heavily influenced by what's going on about them, if they get a mindset then that's it, an imbalanced free kick count like that should never happen to that extent.

I do agree without a doubt there is plenty of attention seekers out there that rile me up no end. No body goes to a game of footy to watch umpires that's for sure. I'm just talking in a general sense that blaming umpires is an excuse and an excuse only. Never kid yourself that your weakness and failures are somebody else's fault. When a team loses you can bet 9 out of 10 posts consist of blaming umpires. And Dogman put it on the umps straight away so what he was really doing was making an excuse