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Larry Bird wrote: John Todd that is the worst example you could think of sixty years ago for starters and a player with a very short career. I'm starting to worry about you mate to be honest. I agree these guys are not playing finals to develop they want to win. I believe McGovern and Lycett tried to talk the Eagles into letting them play. Imagine how lop sided it would be then.

LB he WON the Sandover Medal as a 17 year in an era when it was far tougher physically. His career was curtailed by a knee injury which probably today would have been a knee reconstruction and he would have continued an outstanding footy career as a player.

Listen to PJ's comments and try to defend your stance in that context.