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Ted Nugent wrote: An article in The West today about equalisation measures. It proposes reducing the points cap to 100, saying that no club gets near 120. I would dispute that: Subi were at 116 this year and, famously, exceeded the cap a couple of years back when they were de-listing and re-listing players mid season. It also says Subi will get a points reduction of about 15 on players like Litherland, Powell and others. Apparently Subi will be prevented from recruiting returning AFL players who came from other WAFL clubs. I find that one puzzling, as I think it would be difficult to enforce a rule that singles out Subi. As much as I think Subi's dominance needs to be curtailed, any equalisation measures would have to apply to every club. As I have said before, a points and transfer fee loading would based on relative ladder positions would be a better way forward.

For my part, I am sceptical about the points reduction. Yes, it would make it difficult for Subi to recruit next year. But it would also make it difficult for Perth, and very likely other clubs, to recruit. We would be able to pick up only one ex AFL/experienced State league player, which would fall well short of what we need if we are to push up the ladder. Curtailing Subi's unprecedented dominance is all well and good but it would make it very difficult for other clubs to improve. Again, a points/transfer loading would provide a disincentive for top teams to recruit from lower teams while not preventing lower teams from improving their lists.

This would be a starting point. The bloody commission should have been busy meeting on Monday, the day after the Grand Final to go through all the other issues that need attention. To solely concentrate on this subject is simply not good enough! One would expect the Twenty twenty season to commence in April. Which is 6 months away. One would be expecting the other problems that need sorting, surely can be looked at and positively acted upon before the commencement of next season! I would have thought so!
And if not, why not!
Surely the damn commission is not just simply standing back trying to say everything is all good with the Wafl?! Why are people saying that?
If all this equalisation stuff is supposedly a big issue, lets move on from it and hopefully all the other immediate issues can be fixed as well..
If the Wafl falls over, that's the end of the footy!

Since us EF fans have a better understanding at what constitutes a valid contract and what doesn't....I guess a novel, tho admittedly underhanded way, by EFFC, to facilitate the WAFL equalization ethos, by attempting to lure a player to the club, from a stronger club then itself, to better itself onfield embarrassingly failed.

I guess the biggest lesson EF can learn from all this, would be to play nicely from the start, like say SF did, when they snapped up two talented youngsters from a WAFL club, weaker then itself, for the 2020 season. Ironically too,from a club whose management and fans have historically campaigned the strongest for WAFL equality. Would hate to see the Sokol effect come back to bite the weaker club, like it has notably done when SF play Subi. But it has been great to see Sokol's development sky rocket ten fold, simply by being immersed within a more successful playing environment.

All would agree here that it would be great to see those two youngsters, reach their potential, like Sokol within the WAFL environment, regardless of who they play for....well played SF for facilitating such an occurrence.....

Freezin wrote: Since us EF fans have a better understanding at what constitutes a valid contract and what doesn't....I guess a novel, tho admittedly underhanded way, by EFFC, to facilitate the WAFL equalization ethos, by attempting to lure a player to the club, from a stronger club then itself, to better itself onfield embarrassingly failed.

I guess the biggest lesson EF can learn from all this, would be to play nicely from the start, like say SF did, when they snapped up two talented youngsters from a WAFL club, weaker then itself, for the 2020 season. Ironically too,from a club whose management and fans have historically campaigned the strongest for WAFL equality. Would hate to see the Sokol effect come back to bite the weaker club, like it has notably done when SF play Subi. But it has been great to see Sokol's development sky rocket ten fold, simply by being immersed within a more successful playing environment.

All would agree here that it would be great to see those two youngsters, reach their potential, like Sokol within the WAFL environment, regardless of who they play for....well played SF for facilitating such an occurrence.....

Awwwe stop crying Freezin it’s ok come here I’ll put my arms around you. Lol. Was Sokol contracted to SF at the time? Probably wasn’t going to get a game while Saunders was playing. Timing is everything.

Poor old Jolly Joker. All is well that ends well and I guess that EF will learn from their clumsy and ill advised attempt to snare a player contracted from another club.
You have snared a promising young player from Perth, Bailey Smith, in a straight swap for Jayden Quill. Win, Win all around. Like for like. That is how it should be.
Good luck to both those young fellows.

Where have you read/heard that Smokey?

Smokester got it from me DD....as Smokester says, good luck to both youngsters...

as for needing a shoulder to cry on....not sure what you mean mate?..EF haven't lost any talented youngsters to a top 5 club that I know of....unlike Perth losing Ninyette and Levien to SF......Thought that was the crux of the equalization ethos and the Perth fan whinge about WAFL inequality? ...stopping the stronger clubs taking talent from the weaker clubs...like I said hopefully SF can develop those 2 boys to their true potential and both boys can do a Sokol....did Perth get anything in return from SF player wise?...

Freezin wrote: Smokester got it from me DD....as Smokester says, good luck to both youngsters...

as for needing a shoulder to cry on....not sure what you mean mate?..EF haven't lost any talented youngsters to a top 5 club that I know of....unlike Perth losing Ninyette and Levien to SF......Thought that was the crux of the equalization ethos and the Perth fan whinge about WAFL inequality? ...stopping the stronger clubs taking talent from the weaker clubs...like I said hopefully SF can develop those 2 boys to their true potential and both boys can do a Sokol....did Perth get anything in return from SF player wise?...

Uhmm, Perth were the only club that voted against penalising Subiaco from recruiting 10, 12 point players. Over to you.

I said Perth fans whinge...not the PFFC whinge....or did you Perth fans vote on Bobby's behalf?....so back to you mate....you guys are forever whinging about WAFL inequality....from stronger clubs like Subi pinching other clubs youngsters, to poor local zones, to player points etc...

Freezin, it really isn't complicated. The important precedent that the Leggett case has hopefully set is that a contracted player who is getting regular league games is unlikely to be cleared to a rival club. This ruling should stop the sort of predatory behaviour EF has displayed in pursuing Leggett over an extended period. If a contracted player is going to get more league opportunity by changing clubs, the transfer is usually approved. In fact, clubs will never stand in the way of a player in those circumstances. That's how we got Tropiano. That's how you got Morgan Davies. That's how Subi got Sokol. If a player is not contracted, and meets the other transfer guidelines, there is nothing to stop the transfer. That is the category Ninyette and Levien are in. Levien spat the dummy at the start of 2019 anyway, so good riddance. Steady player but not as good as he thinks he is.

Very true STT....life will go on....has been going on since 1998 down at Moss St for EF and since 1977 down at the precinct for the PFC.....gotta feeling nothing is gonna change for both clubs soonish either, even with or without a Cody Leggett on board....Speaking of being pantsed...reckon the likes of Subi, SF and Cl will don their big footy pants again in 2020....