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Article in the online West by JT, similar to some posts on here regarding the current success or otherwise of teams with big junior zones and a high % of local players. Then looks at Subi's unparalleled success in turning unwanted also rans from other clubs into good players.

thewest.com.au/sport/wafl/the-tuesday-wa...uccess-ng-b88512722z

Senior Seagull wrote: Article in the online West by JT, similar to some posts on here regarding the current success or otherwise of teams with big junior zones and a high % of local players. Then looks at Subi's unparalleled success in turning unwanted also rans from other clubs into good players.

thewest.com.au/sport/wafl/the-tuesday-wa...uccess-ng-b88512722z

Twomey or Robbo under performing or underappreciated? Patent nonsense.

Careful Swan, Subi's best players are local, and in that, we are fortunate indeed.

ArkRoyal wrote: Careful Swan, Subi's best players are local, and in that, we are fortunate indeed.

AR fundamentally what Subi have done by recruiting players from Swans such as Twomey and Robbo effectively strengthened Subi and weakened Swans. And Subi's recruiting of such players was not limited to those two and to Swans. Of course a player may perform better playing for Subi than playing in a lesser team.

Also, in JT's article he doesn't speak to the possible impact of losing top class younger players for a number of years. I will also give another example in Steve Coniglio. Kicked 4 goals as a 16 year old in the 2010 GF. and In 2011 barely played a handful of games for Swans.

swan42 wrote:

Senior Seagull wrote: Article in the online West by JT, similar to some posts on here regarding the current success or otherwise of teams with big junior zones and a high % of local players. Then looks at Subi's unparalleled success in turning unwanted also rans from other clubs into good players.

thewest.com.au/sport/wafl/the-tuesday-wa...uccess-ng-b88512722z

Twomey or Robbo under performing or underappreciated? Patent nonsense.

Not Sub's fault SD didnt pay those boys what they were worth....underpaid more like it 42..not too sure all the fuss is about ....SD are playing their local boys isnt that what their fans want...local produce...more fool Subi for looking outside their zone and getting success for it...LOL

Freezin wrote:

swan42 wrote:

Senior Seagull wrote: Article in the online West by JT, similar to some posts on here regarding the current success or otherwise of teams with big junior zones and a high % of local players. Then looks at Subi's unparalleled success in turning unwanted also rans from other clubs into good players.

thewest.com.au/sport/wafl/the-tuesday-wa...uccess-ng-b88512722z

Twomey or Robbo under performing or underappreciated? Patent nonsense.

Not Sub's fault SD didnt pay those boys what they were worth....underpaid more like it 42

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LOL....how farking old are you 42......well done Subi on reigniting a few players careers that seemed to be stagnating....every one deserves a second chance eh 42....

Freezin wrote: LOL....how farking old are you 42......well done Subi on reigniting a few players careers that seemed to be stagnating....every one deserves a second chance eh 42....

Exactly when was Robbo's career over? Sometime in February when he was training at Swans and shortly before he moved to Subiaco. No-one is disputing that Subiaco has provided the opportunity for some players in that category. Do you deny that Subiaco have also actively recruited players from opposition clubs that were in the upper echelons of those clubs and were not languishing in the reserves?

Swan 42: We recruitted those players to defeat the EP alignment team --- and they only just managged to do that in 2014 --- not to play against SD per se. The same way SD have done in passed years.

I know you think there should be some genuine change in the WAFL in terms of recruitment rules and so on. Raise it with Peter Hodyl at the agm. As I have said before, in relation to the 'Subi problem', I would be willing to bet that it has not made the agenda of any club's minutes.

By the way Swan 42, I was not trying to suggest that players, such as Twomey, have not made a strong contribution to Subi, rather I was referring to the fact that he plays on a half back flank these days, and few games are won from that position.

ArkRoyal wrote: Swan 42: We recruitted those players to defeat the EP alignment team --- and they only just managged to do that in 2014 --- not to play against SD per se. The same way SD have done in passed years.

I know you think there should be some genuine change in the WAFL in terms of recruitment rules and so on. Raise it with Peter Hodyl at the agm. As I have said before, in relation to the 'Subi problem', I would be willing to bet that it has not made the agenda of any club's minutes.

By the way Swan 42, I was not trying to suggest that players, such as Twomey, have not made a strong contribution to Subi, rather I was referring to the fact that he plays on a half back flank these days, and few games are won from that position.

AR it is good to have a debate on a non-personal level. I have spoken and corresponded with directors of the Swans' board regarding the host club alignment and Subiaco's dominance. I also at the end of the survey conducted in concert with the footy review outlined the host club alignment and Subiaco's dominance.

I also if you recall sent an email to Gary Walton about the direction of the WAFL some time ago and published it on the predecessor of this site. I also published G Walton's response verbatim there. G Walton's unexpurgated response was only removed because the owner(s) were under possible legal threat if it wasn't removed.

As to Twomey and Robbo recruitment by Subiaco it was not my attention to infer that it was done merely for when Subi played Swans. Rather that it was and is Subiaco's strategy to weaken opposition clubs by recruiting top players from those clubs. There certainly a great deal of scuttlebutt that Subiaco actively and aggressively attempted to recruit Ryan Davis.