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What a Saturday for a WAFL GF!! 10 years 2 months ago #56716

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I think the AFL players association and its agency bargaining agreement with the AFL might have something to say about extending the season beyond the AFL grand final...

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What a Saturday for a WAFL GF!! 10 years 2 months ago #56725

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BC wrote: I think the AFL players association and its agency bargaining agreement with the AFL might have something to say about extending the season beyond the AFL grand final...


The AFLPA influence on all these things are out of control. What about the restraint of trade on the domestic leagues? They seem to forget that without us, they are up shit creek. Lets see how their players develop by playing in the amatures.

There is a simple solution, the precious AFL players don't have to play in the WAFL Grand Final if they choose not too, problem solved.

The WAFL have got to start looking after the WAFL a little bit. Enough of this extreme restraint on anything that may help us get some positive publicity. The excuses are wearing thin. In fact they are beyond that now.

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What a Saturday for a WAFL GF!! 10 years 2 months ago #56738

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anchorman wrote: jardine ,most of the kids drafted by the AFL clubs never make it to the WAFL league level, they are taken before they get that far. The AFL will begin to ru8n the under age competitions.
If the WAFL gets into much more trouble then you will see the AFL step in and take over. There is nothing surer. I am sure that that is what the AFL want all over Australia.


sad thing is you may well be right there anchorman.

the usual forgotten thing in a general sense, is that the big 3 state leagues are actually legitimate competitions that have been operating for a century. Seems that because they are old, they are deemed out of date. When in reality they should be held in high regard, you cant buy this kind of tradition. And all these clubs produce talent. Why spend multi-millions on restructuring a format, that already has an infrastructure in place.

I would love to see a list of how many kids are drafted from the under 19's, and how many get spat out & eventually lost to the code. I bet there would be a list so long it would make our heads spin. We all hear about the success stories, you will never hear the failures and there are many. Some kids mature later, that is a forgotten fact and it shows a complete lack of nouse by the AFL and the recruiters. For that reason I have always believed we lose so many more "footballers" because of this obsession with drafting babies, rather than giving some of them an extra few years to work out what is required by playing against men on a league scale.

The underrated state league football competitions can give the AFL so much more, but because of the narrow minded attitudes at the top, we don't take advantage of what I call the crucial catchment area of football. It is an area that should be utilised so much more, hence the reason I will fight to the death for the WAFL, SANFL and the VFL. And I am talking about at "league level".

I saw a bunch of footballers for Subiaco who made a bunch of AFL players look stupid on Grand Final day. I have no doubt many of those Subi boys could cut it at an AFL club, but they probably wont. Even though some may be in the age group of 20-24, the AFL clubs would not even give them a look in, because they are not playing at Colts level. Yet in actual fact, some of these players have halved the ground work for the AFL clubs, but due to a perception, and that's all this is "a perception", recruiters meander around league level football like lazy cows. It is a serious competition not utilised. I will promote this fact until I croak.

And the day the AFL take over, control and eventually kill off state league football, will see sports like soccer take over as the major code in this country. And this is because the young kids drafted that are spat out, will never be given that extra time at league level to mature. We already lose many of these kids now, imagine the drop off if league football is reduced to the scrap heap. There is nothing surer.

Restricting & choking competitions like the WAFL are completely irresponsible. Todays Brownlow Medallist is just one minor example. If in fact we need one.

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What a Saturday for a WAFL GF!! 10 years 2 months ago #56747

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anchorman wrote: jardine I take your point, and I have been an advocate of the recruiting age being raised as the clubs who teach these kids get nothing from them other than money. The money to the WAFL and others is essential to them but there should be more. The supporters and club should be able to watch them blossom. As it is at the moment ,the supporters don't even get to know who is being drafted and where they are being drafted from.
It may seem at times like I am anti WAFL, but that could not be further from the truth. No I don't go to the WAFL games but I still follow my club South Fremantle. At some stage in life some things have to go. I chose to watch the AFL rather than the WAFL. A wrong decision some have said. But Hey I can live with that. Not a problem.
Another point, I would hardly say that the Subi boys beat a hardened team of AFL players. Sure there were players from an AFL clubs list, but the truth be known , all those that played for EP, were merely WAFL grade players. Hardly tried and reliable AFL players.
Also I agree with the amount of kids who get chewed up and spat out. When that happens how many of the kids go back to the clubs they come from!! Hardly any I am guessing. They fade away into nothing. It has been happening for many years and will continue happen.
I for one would not like to see the WAFL run by the AFL , but I see no other way that the WAFL can survive. Sorry to say it but it a tired old league, run for and attended by tired old men. I apologise if I have upset any one by that but it is the truth. Get upset but you only have to read a lot, no , most posts here to work that out.
Any way only my opinion.


Perhaps you can rationalise the above with your support of the host club alignment. Surely, the principle is no different whether the player goes to a WA domiciled AFL team or a non-WA domiciled AFL club?

As to your comments about the WAFL - it is an indisputable fact, despite what those at the WAFC think, that the host club alignment has done a great deal of damage to the WAFL competition.

Obviously it will never get back to where it was; but it certainly could be a lot better if those in charge gave it the support it deserves. Certainly, the ridiculous view that the reason East Perth's crowds were down by almost 20 % is because it rains shows that they have no idea and don't care about the WAFL.

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What a Saturday for a WAFL GF!! 10 years 2 months ago #56751

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Worth a try I guess, when your getting less people to a WAFL GF than Perth Glory get at a home and away game you know youve hit rock bottom, 10,000 is a joke.

The only way is up or bust I guess, why not try it on the Saturday after, although I am sure there will be all sorts of technical difficulties with the AFLPA and AFL in general, they call teh shots not the WAFC.

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What a Saturday for a WAFL GF!! 10 years 2 months ago #56793

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anchorman wrote: jardine I take your point, and I have been an advocate of the recruiting age being raised as the clubs who teach these kids get nothing from them other than money. The money to the WAFL and others is essential to them but there should be more. The supporters and club should be able to watch them blossom. As it is at the moment ,the supporters don't even get to know who is being drafted and where they are being drafted from.
It may seem at times like I am anti WAFL, but that could not be further from the truth. No I don't go to the WAFL games but I still follow my club South Fremantle. At some stage in life some things have to go. I chose to watch the AFL rather than the WAFL. A wrong decision some have said. But Hey I can live with that. Not a problem.
Another point, I would hardly say that the Subi boys beat a hardened team of AFL players. Sure there were players from an AFL clubs list, but the truth be known , all those that played for EP, were merely WAFL grade players. Hardly tried and reliable AFL players.
Also I agree with the amount of kids who get chewed up and spat out. When that happens how many of the kids go back to the clubs they come from!! Hardly any I am guessing. They fade away into nothing. It has been happening for many years and will continue happen.
I for one would not like to see the WAFL run by the AFL , but I see no other way that the WAFL can survive. Sorry to say it but it a tired old league, run for and attended by tired old men. I apologise if I have upset any one by that but it is the truth. Get upset but you only have to read a lot, no , most posts here to work that out.
Any way only my opinion.


Can someone ring the bell for the Butler ??? Played a few AuFL games ???

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