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Further to the alignment A/man - did you happen to hear Percy Johnson's comments about Peel and Fremantle Dockers on 91.3 FM this morning?

swan42 wrote: Further to the alignment A/man - did you happen to hear Percy Johnson's comments about Peel and Fremantle Dockers on 91.3 FM this morning?

Missed it Swan42, what did he say?

This reminds me of the Essendon problem where they used performance enhancing substances - In the WAFL there are not drugs involved the have just taken out the even playing field by putting Professional footballers up against Part time footballers.. Hey and we can still give them a contest to a degree

One thing that mystified me was a 91.3 commentator saying they were instructed not to use the word Alignment the correct term apparently is Affiliation
Seems like the WAFC has lost that one

Maybe I have that wrong as this was a paragraph in the news article about the legends meeting up with them again..

WAFC chief executive Gary Walton has previously said that changes to the model would be considered if an end-of-season review found sufficient grounds.

"We will undertake a full review of the partnering model at the conclusion of the 2014 season and determine the need for change if required," Walton said in March. East Perth and Peel are the two AFL host clubs and have experienced dramatically different success this season.

Cardy wrote: This reminds me of the Essendon problem where they used performance enhancing substances - In the WAFL there are not drugs involved the have just taken out the even playing field by putting Professional footballers up against Part time footballers.. Hey and we can still give them a contest to a degree

One thing that mystified me was a 91.3 commentator saying they were instructed not to use the word Alignment the correct term apparently is Affiliation
Seems like the WAFC has lost that one

Maybe I have that wrong as this was a paragraph in the news article about the legends meeting up with them again..

WAFC chief executive Gary Walton has previously said that changes to the model would be considered if an end-of-season review found sufficient grounds.

"We will undertake a full review of the partnering model at the conclusion of the 2014 season and determine the need for change if required," Walton said in March. East Perth and Peel are the two AFL host clubs and have experienced dramatically different success this season.

If u could just provide some actual evidence to back up ur comment here Cardy I'm sure ASADA would love to speak with you!!!

You talking about the Essendon thing DW? Mate it seems someone at the AFL has an agenda and they will not stop until they destroy the club.
I suggest some other clubs are of the same view.
Me well I am mystified why it is dragging out for so long and it appears it will drag out for years. But hey the AFL has a bottomless pit so wont worry them. Shame a bit of the legal money could of gone into a lot of more worthy causes..
I cant understand the whole thing and seem to remember when they used these substances or whatever they werent illegal anyway so whats the problem.. Sorry off topic and no more will be said.

WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO SIMPLE FOOTBALL. Where it all came down to football and nothing else? Meet the AFL

Dont tell anyone but I am on the side of Essendon... Yeh their the underdogs lol

PS I was a Melbourne supporter as well before the State sides got going e.g the VFL days... Nice to see them have a win GO the DEE'S - My HEART BEATS TRUE - ITS A GRAND OLD FLAG... Shit isnt there a WAFL club that uses that slogan and sings that song?
www.melbournefc.com.au/ Gee 35,379 Members

Maybe we should become aligned oops sorry become the Host Club for them

I don't know about the Host club thing... Why is it so many Victorian clubs are dumping their host club in favour of their own standalone sides.

Bulldogs leaving Wiliamstown this year, and St. Kilda to have their own next year leaving Sandringham.

Maybe they could do this like the Baseball in the states. A major league side might be in one state, but they have a minor league club in another.

The Eagles and Dorkers could just field VFL sides.

Mikeh hopefully someone can provide a link for his comments. In a nutshell and to paraphrase he basically said that the intent of the AFL ALIGNED players at Peel were content to allow the ball to get into their defensive 50 metre arc. By doing so it would allow them the ability to practise their defensive skills as per Fremantle Dockers' game plan.

In essence the concept of trying to win the game is a very poor relation to the aforementioned.

That surely would go a long way in explaining the game plan down at FART. Didn't see the weekend's game. Were they playing the rolling maul and vacating the entire forward area like they do in that comp they call the AFL which masquerades itself as being Australian Rules Football. Great news to hear the cancer is spreading to real footy

Interesting topic.. Find below a list of the Affiliations in the AFL.
Interesting point is some clubs have total autonomy with selections and coach. The 2 AFL clubs in WA have complete say in the coach and how players are used etc. No wonder the Peel coach is pulling his hair out but he has the job

Another interesting question asked on another topic was which AFL players qualify for the finals? Mikeh did a bit of research and came up with the following. This I assume would also include the FOXTEL cup.. It is logical to say that EP will win both the WAFL GF and the Foxtel cup A few more games to go so other AFL players could qualify for the Finals.

From Mikeh

just to back up what you are saying I checked the list on WAFL online and the following Eagles have already qualified with 5 games even though we are not even half way through the season
Brennan
Carter
Butler
Colledge
Hill
Lycett
Mcginnity
McGovern
Mcinnes
Sheed
Sinclair
Ash Smith
Tunbridge
Wilson

Thats 14 players.....scary really. As well as this Hutchings is on 3 so he will probably qualify as well and who knows if the Eagles season starts going down hill a number of other players may drop back for weeks if their AFL form drops away

Affiliated clubs AFL Interesting that a club has 2 VFL clubs?



Wikipedia article on Affiliations A must read to get the full picture


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Footbal...eserves_affiliations

This paragraph interested me and addresses finals etc This is in the article above


Since the merger, there have been three types of club participating in the VFL:

VFL/AFL club affiliations—in these cases, an AFL club enters into an agreement with a single VFL club (or, in the unique case of North Melbourne, two VFL clubs). Any players listed at the AFL club are permitted to play with the VFL club on weekends when not selected for an AFL game. The VFL club maintains its own, separate playing list, and its weekly team is composed of a mixture of VFL-listed and AFL-listed players.

The exact nature of the organisational relationship between the VFL and AFL club varies on a case-by-case basis, with some VFL sides enjoying reasonable autonomy, and others being heavily influenced by their AFL-affiliates. These clubs generally field teams in both the VFL seniors and the VFL reserves, and AFL-listed players may be selected for either, although most will play seniors.

Stand-alone AFL reserves teams—in these cases, the AFL club fields its own team in the VFL. Naturally, the AFL club has complete autonomy over the operation of its VFL team. Because the AFL list is not large enough to field two complete teams, the club must also maintain a separate list of "top-up players", who are eligible only for VFL games. The licence fee for an AFL club fielding a stand-alone reserves team is much higher than the cost of entering into an affiliation. None of the AFL clubs with a stand-alone team in the VFL seniors is involved in the VFL reserves.

Stand-alone VFL senior teams—in these cases, the VFL club has no affiliation with any AFL club. It takes complete responsibility for maintaining its own list of players from outside the AFL. As for affiliated VFL clubs, these clubs generally compete in both the VFL seniors and VFL reserves, although there is no requirement for them to field a reserves team.

Currently, there are no limitations on how many AFL-listed players may play in a VFL team on any given weekend—except during finals, when only players who have played a certain number of VFL games during the season are eligible. There was previously a rule known as the 12–10 Rule, which stated that in a match between an affiliated VFL team and a stand-alone VFL senior team, the affiliated team could play of at most twelve AFL-listed players, with the other ten to be VFL-listed players; and, where the AFL club had more than twelve reserve players available, the extras would play in the VFL reserves. The rule was abolished in 2011.

swan42 wrote: Mikeh hopefully someone can provide a link for his comments. In a nutshell and to paraphrase he basically said that the intent of the AFL ALIGNED players at Peel were content to allow the ball to get into their defensive 50 metre arc. By doing so it would allow them the ability to practise their defensive skills as per Fremantle Dockers' game plan.

In essence the concept of trying to win the game is a very poor relation to the aforementioned.

This raises a number of issues about the credibility of the Peel Thunder Football Club and by implication the WAFL competition if true. What this is saying is that the needs of the WAFL club( win games and therefore attract members sponsors etc) are totally subservient to the needs of its parent AFL club.

What Peel based Dockers players appear to be doing is practicing their drills under match day situations which would imply that they would spend much of their time trying to nullify the opposition rather than scoring enough goals to win themselves.

This must be incredibly frustrating for the Peel WAFL players whose prime objective would be to win games. This approach appears to contrast with the Eagles approach to East Perth and IMO reduces the WAFL to a farce. It's sort of like the Australian cricket selectors approaching the Warriors just before an international 20/20 competition and asking Justin Langer to instruct his Sheffield Shield players to go out and bat like its a 20/20 so that they can have a look at their skills in this context. Forget about winning the shield game! I know what Justins response to that would be