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Why are Clermont such a strong team 11 years 6 months ago #20436

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MarkOlsen wrote: why would they combine them if they had enough for each year group ?
wouldnt that mean that each team would have over 40 players ?


They don't combine teams.

They combine competitions so that there are enough teams to form a decent varied competition.

Thus Yanchep (WP) might play Dalkeith-Nedlands (CL) or Wembley Downs (CL) or Northern Cobras (S) or whatever the case may be.

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Why are Clermont such a strong team 11 years 6 months ago #20437

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In the Perth/East Perth combined comp Gosnells (P) may play Ballajura (EP) etc

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Why are Clermont such a strong team 11 years 6 months ago #20440

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Subi only have 9 ?

from the year 11's comp
Kingsley
Kingsway
Edgewater
Quinns
Sorrento/Duncraig
Warwick
Karrinyup

12's
Sorrento
Ocean Ridge
Kingsley
Kingsway
Quinns
Yanchep
Wanneroo
Warwick

where do all these teams fit in, some i take it are West Perth ?

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Why are Clermont such a strong team 11 years 6 months ago #20441

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La Hincha wrote:

MarkOlsen wrote: why would they combine them if they had enough for each year group ?
wouldnt that mean that each team would have over 40 players ?


They don't combine teams.

They combine competitions so that there are enough teams to form a decent varied competition.

Thus Yanchep (WP) might play Dalkeith-Nedlands (CL) or Wembley Downs (CL) or Northern Cobras (S) or whatever the case may be.


I meant why would Swans combine teams in their 16's & 17's comp to form just one team in the 17's.?
surely if they had enough for 2 comps they would have a 16's and 17's instead of having 40 players in a team..

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Why are Clermont such a strong team 11 years 6 months ago #20443

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MarkOlsen wrote: Subi only have 9 ?

from the year 11's comp
Kingsley
Kingsway
Edgewater
Quinns
Sorrento/Duncraig
Warwick
Karrinyup

12's
Sorrento
Ocean Ridge
Kingsley
Kingsway
Quinns
Yanchep
Wanneroo
Warwick

where do all these teams fit in, some i take it are West Perth ?


Yeah that's right.
Ocean Ridge, Quinns, Yanchep, Wanneroo, Edgewater-Woodvale, Whitfords and Joondalup-Kinross are WP clubs. With Kingley we and WP share roughly 40% WP/60% S but to be technically correct it fits into the Subi zone by a 400/500m. If you look at the WP Dev squads/colts/res/league you'll see what I mean.

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Why are Clermont such a strong team 11 years 6 months ago #20444

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MarkOlsen wrote:

La Hincha wrote:

MarkOlsen wrote: why would they combine them if they had enough for each year group ?
wouldnt that mean that each team would have over 40 players ?


They don't combine teams.

They combine competitions so that there are enough teams to form a decent varied competition.

Thus Yanchep (WP) might play Dalkeith-Nedlands (CL) or Wembley Downs (CL) or Northern Cobras (S) or whatever the case may be.


I meant why would Swans combine teams in their 16's & 17's comp to form just one team in the 17's.?
surely if they had enough for 2 comps they would have a 16's and 17's instead of having 40 players in a team..


Maybe I don't know mate. When a 16's team decides to amalgamate with a 17's team usually a lot of the younger boys quit. And I don't know in each club's case which was the stronger age group 16's or 17's.

I'm guessing though that the distance factor makes it tough for SD to combine with anyone other than EP or P and they already jumped in together.

But it does open up the possibility that Swans, EP and P may combine at some stage in 16's and 17's.

Make no mistake I understand that Swans has it's own problems to deal with in it's zone. It's not an easy district to manage geographically. One day it's going to stretch out to the border of Northam virtually I suppose the way Perth is growing.

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Why are Clermont such a strong team 11 years 6 months ago #20445

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so from the stats you provided and the performance of subi's colts this year it doesnt seem to indicate they have a problems in their 16's and 17's ?

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Why are Clermont such a strong team 11 years 6 months ago #20446

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There's one thing I like about SD's zone and that is I can only see it growing from here as those Hills areas populate further.

West Perth should be the same with the areas growing between Joondalup and Yanchep.

East Fremantle are "landlocked" by South Fremantle to the South and Perth to the East so not sure what happens there in 2017 and 2024.

Peel don't need all they have in my opinion. South should get back all of Rockingham and the surrounds. That would open up the Southern corridor to EF and allow to Armadale, Kelmscott, Roleystone etc to go back to Perth from south Frem which would allow Redcliffe and Belmont to go to Swans.

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Why are Clermont such a strong team 11 years 6 months ago #20447

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MarkOlsen wrote: so from the stats you provided and the performance of subi's colts this year it doesnt seem to indicate they have a problems in their 16's and 17's ?


Yep for a change we have a strong colts team. 3rd time in the four since 2000. (If we make it)

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Why are Clermont such a strong team 11 years 6 months ago #20453

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All clubs go through golden eras and all golden eras come to an end as ours will. Our strength has been based on a variety of factors. A strong core of players who were never good enough to attract draft interest yet are bloody good at wafl level, canny recruiting (Foster, Blackwell, Andrews, Seaby), good coaching appointments, strong loyalty from fringe players to ensure depth, low turnover of club staff...
Yes we've got a good zone but not unfairly good i don't think. As i've said before if you look at the best players to come out of our zone over the last 10 to 20 years its not actually that impressive. East Freo have probably been the best zone in the country in that regard but producing brownlow medallists and all australians doesn't lead to wafl success. Albany is good to us but so is Geraldton, bunbury, busselton margaret river, Kalgoorlie, Northam... Kimberley has given us little and is a tough zone to make work.
And La hincha i thought Subi just signed another 20 years or so for the seating deal? A couple of million a year for 40 odd years - i don't think you will be in financial trouble anytime soon.

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