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And by the way, Perth's points and salary cap is exactly the same as last season in case anyone is wondering.

Tiger Tales wrote:

The longer this thread goes on the weaker DDs argument gets. Perth’s zone doesn’t have an issue producing talent. All clubs lose their top end talent to the AFL and Perth has produced more AFL draftees than a number of other WAFL clubs. 

Perth does have a huge problem retaining their WAFL quality League players though. Part of that is Perths proximity to their country zone and also Perths lack of success over the last 40+ years. It’s not difficult to understand a player accepting equal or more money to play country footy to drive an hour or two to games rather than  playing at Perth. Plenty of Perths WAFL quality players also get dragged to successful ammo clubs such as Trinity Aquinas.  

Keeping dreaming about getting Albany DD, that’s all it will ever be. 

 

Yep it does tend to go that way for DD

PSA Schools in zone
Claremont 3
Perth 3

SFFC -  0
 

Bazza wrote:

Tiger Tales wrote:

The longer this thread goes on the weaker DDs argument gets. Perth’s zone doesn’t have an issue producing talent. All clubs lose their top end talent to the AFL and Perth has produced more AFL draftees than a number of other WAFL clubs. 

Perth does have a huge problem retaining their WAFL quality League players though. Part of that is Perths proximity to their country zone and also Perths lack of success over the last 40+ years. It’s not difficult to understand a player accepting equal or more money to play country footy to drive an hour or two to games rather than  playing at Perth. Plenty of Perths WAFL quality players also get dragged to successful ammo clubs such as Trinity Aquinas.  

Keeping dreaming about getting Albany DD, that’s all it will ever be. 


 

Yep it does tend to go that way for DD

PSA Schools in zone
Claremont 3
Perth 3

SFFC -  0

 

Fark how dumb are you? The location of PSA schools has NOTHING to do with WAFL zones. Residential address is all that counts. You sound as thick as that Tiger plonker 

SuperDude wrote:

Bazza wrote:

Tiger Tales wrote:

The longer this thread goes on the weaker DDs argument gets. Perth’s zone doesn’t have an issue producing talent. All clubs lose their top end talent to the AFL and Perth has produced more AFL draftees than a number of other WAFL clubs. 

Perth does have a huge problem retaining their WAFL quality League players though. Part of that is Perths proximity to their country zone and also Perths lack of success over the last 40+ years. It’s not difficult to understand a player accepting equal or more money to play country footy to drive an hour or two to games rather than  playing at Perth. Plenty of Perths WAFL quality players also get dragged to successful ammo clubs such as Trinity Aquinas.  

Keeping dreaming about getting Albany DD, that’s all it will ever be. 



 

Yep it does tend to go that way for DD

PSA Schools in zone
Claremont 3
Perth 3

SFFC -  0


 

Fark how dumb are you? The location of PSA schools has NOTHING to do with WAFL zones. Residential address is all that counts. You sound as thick as that Tiger plonker 

Oops 🤣😂 Well done Super Duper. Some have got foot and mouth disease. Easter has come early for you two chaps with the egg all over your face.

SuperDude wrote:

Bazza wrote:

Tiger Tales wrote:

The longer this thread goes on the weaker DDs argument gets. Perth’s zone doesn’t have an issue producing talent. All clubs lose their top end talent to the AFL and Perth has produced more AFL draftees than a number of other WAFL clubs. 

Perth does have a huge problem retaining their WAFL quality League players though. Part of that is Perths proximity to their country zone and also Perths lack of success over the last 40+ years. It’s not difficult to understand a player accepting equal or more money to play country footy to drive an hour or two to games rather than  playing at Perth. Plenty of Perths WAFL quality players also get dragged to successful ammo clubs such as Trinity Aquinas.  

Keeping dreaming about getting Albany DD, that’s all it will ever be. 



 

Yep it does tend to go that way for DD

PSA Schools in zone
Claremont 3
Perth 3

SFFC -  0


 

Fark how dumb are you? The location of PSA schools has NOTHING to do with WAFL zones. Residential address is all that counts. You sound as thick as that Tiger plonker 

Amy more excuses for Perths shit club and player management dumbo?

Super Dude, we understand that residential address is the only thing that counts for the WAFL zone and that zone boundaries are drawn up so that clubs have even participation rates in each WAFL Zone. 

Many of the Perth faithful have been banging on here forever, making excuse after excuse why Perth has been so shit for 45 years. Some of my favourite excuses include:

• Perth's zone doesn't have any talent, despite Perth producing more than their fair share of AFL quality talent from their zone. Thanks for providing that info DD
• Other clubs have an advantage because of the PSA school programs that exist within their zones. Perth and Claremont have equal PSA schools and plenty of Perth's players have gone to Trinity, Wesley and Aquinas.
• Perth's City Zone has more fast food stores than some other WAFL zones 

There's been plenty more excuses offered - what's never been accepted is that Perth are responsible for getting the most out of their zone and they struggle to engage with and retain top quality WAFL players. This isn't because they don't exist in Perth's zone, its because Perth have had a losing culture for so long that the best footballers don't want to be there. Look at how many prefer to go to another WAFL club, play Ammos or country footy instead of playing at Perth where they had little chance of playing in a side that would be competitive and certainly no chance of regularly playing finals.  

None of the players coming through Perth's system in the last 15-20 years would have been born when Perth last won a League premiership. Its hard to drive success when no one involved at Perth in any meaningful role over the last 3 decades  actually knew what success looked like in the ever evolving football landscape. There's only been old blokes with big opinions living in the after glow of the pre-80s Perth glory for too long. 

Good to see Perth have finally woken up and got Peter German on board - he won't make excuses, just find solutions to Perth's problems. Expect to see more players shown the door for not meeting PG's standards and look forward to Perth climbing out of the cellar if he's supported with what he needs to bring improvement to Lathlain.

Oh how the mighty speak from their lofty Ivory Tower. There is no club more priveleged than the Claremont Tigers. Blessed with 80% of the boys that attended their 3 PSA schools zoned in the Claremont zone compared with at best 30% of Perth's 3 PSA schools being zoned to Perth.

A population of about 33,000 in Albany, Claremont's largest country town compared with about 9000 in Northam, Perth's biggest country town. Should we go on and compare number of high schools in country zones, school attendance rates, average grades, average household incomes, crime rates???

I look forward to your reply. Yours Sincerely DD.

This is ozfooty's best debate. It's been going on for ages and has all the ingredients: class conflict, nature vs nurture,  culture,  ethnicity, fairness,  feedback loops...

Perth cricket club seeks to be going ok, by the way.  My nephew is playing junior Waca there. Well run.  Big Indianand Srilankan  buy in.  The latter  helps. Think Perth won  A grade last year. 

 

Good to see Avon  win the Nutrien Ag  A Grade champs this year, despite all those socio-economic barriers mentioned .....coached ironically by ex Cl PSA boy Tom Lee....

JL more like Ozfooty's biggest yawn.
Perth have worked hard to get better zones and this has come.
IMHO PFC have failed in at least 2 areas.
1. Developing their young talent to transition them successfully to senior football. We have a crop of 7-8 youngsters graduating this year. They just made a grand final, now we must develop them. I can't recall the last Colts captain to play league, not too many have.
2. We have not used our point or salary cap concessions when provided by the WAFL. This year we have and we have had the contracts ratified. Bingo 4 A Grade recruits in one year.