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Raid has Started 11 years 10 months ago #16632

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au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/-/wafl...ghts-on-royal-smith/
i would expect most clubs are targeting the aligned clubs players but Raponi is the only one to come out and say it.
What was the WAFC expecting-it not to happen!

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astro wrote: au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/-/wafl...ghts-on-royal-smith/
i would expect most clubs are targeting the aligned clubs players but Raponi is the only one to come out and say it.
What was the WAFC expecting-it not to happen!



Its just common sense really that this would happen,i said many many months ago that i would hope my club Perth would target and make a huge play for Smith as we are losing 2 forwards to East Perth next season in McInnes and Tunbridge and we have no replacements from within the club for these 2 players!

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Yep it was common sense because a lot of players wont get a league game with Peel or EP next year.. Gee makes for a dominating Reserves side doesnt it (almost a league side for the rest to take on so they would dominate League and Reserves :( )

This extract from the article says it all as 10/11 players who are now playing for other clubs this year will be in the Alignment sides. That leaves 11 spaces for local players not on a AFL contract Not many spots.. Ok they will still have their list of 40? but most of them will play ressies anyway for the whole season. This would be UNACCEPTABLE TO PLAYERS WHO ARE OF A LEAGUE STANDARD! So they will look around as the article and many supporters say.
FUCK THEM if they can rip us off we can rip them off.. Unless of course the Mighty WAFC/WAFL decides to change the rules again and dont let it happen?

And then we have the Points allocation for each club.. Ha thats ok you will have 11 AFL players in your side worth 10 points each = 110 points.. whoops that leaves 10 points for the REST of the team. Well in WP case none as we have been penalised due to Salary cap breach and only have 110.. E.g As a result, the WAFC has applied discretion when determining the penalty and for the 2014 and 2015 seasons West Perth will lose 10 points each year off its total player point allocation, reducing the total amount to 120 points.
Its ok WAFC/WAFL you just change the rules to suit yourself.. EP and Peel can breach the salary cap every year yet the OTHER CLUBS MUST REMAIN WITHIN THE SALARY CAP.

Level playing field MY ARSE :angry:

Extract from the West article above

Fremantle have had an average of 11 players in the WAFL every round this season while West Coast have had 10. While East Perth and Peel have confirmed that many of their senior players are contracted for next year, _The West Australian _ is aware of one player who has legal advice that his club's AFL partnership may void his contract.


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Raid has Started 11 years 10 months ago #16721

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can someone explain how the points allocation will work for ep & peel next season? or is cardy right?

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Will do a bit of research on that but I think it is one of the LOOSE ends the WAFC is working on thats why they put it off for 12 months.

We also have the Salary cap issue.. The 7G Clubs will still be bound by this yet we have a 2 CLubs playing with up to 11 AFL players who it DOES NOT APPLY TO obviously as No WAFL club with a huge budget would be able to ever have that many AFL or X Afl player in their side..
Just to refresh on the deal..Best I could find at this stage but has been updated since.

Mark Duffield,
The West Australian
January 26, 2013, 10:22 am

The WAFL's self-titled G7 clubs will get access to an extra $120,000 a year as part of a fresh financial package related to the East Perth and Peel alignments with West Coast and Fremantle respectively from 2014.

And there will be a long-term push to "naturalise" the East Perth and Peel lists over time so that, other than AFL-listed players, they will eventually contain no out-of-zone players unless they become uncompetitive.

These were the key concessions won by the seven unaligned clubs over the past two weeks at a series of meetings.

Yesterday, after East Perth and Peel were briefed on the rule modifications in the morning, the seven unaligned clubs unanimously agreed to accept the revised conditions in the afternoon, removing the threat that clubs would boycott practice games against the Royals and Thunder.

The original financial package offered to the WAFL clubs as part of Peel's and East Perth's alignments allowed for an increase of $70,000 in the cash component of their annual management grant from the WAFC, with $20,000 to go on each club's balance sheet annually, $10,000 per club to go towards investigating cost savings and shared services and $50,000 per club to go into a competition development fund.

The revised financial package will still see clubs receive the equivalent of a $150,000 financial package but it will include an extra $120,000 cash in management grants to go with the other elements.

Peel and East Perth will be able to retain out-of-zone players on their lists as of June 30 this year, and will be able to follow through on recruiting players they have formally approached already provided transfers can be finalised through normal WAFL channels, enabling Peel to continue to pursue Cruize Garlett.

But they will not be able to approach any more out-of-zone players and the aim will be to eventually have teams which consist entirely of local and AFL-listed players.

If uncompetitive, they could apply to the WAFC's football affairs committee to recruit out-of-zone players at the end of a season.

WAFC chairman Frank Cooper and G7 spokesman Haydn Raitt hailed the agreement last night and called for everybody to get on with the business of playing and promoting the 2013 WAFL season.

"The players they (East Perth and Peel) have got now will play with them. There is no migration of those players at this stage," Raitt said.

"What we are concerned about is if that they do start off too strong and end up one and two in the first year, we will have members and sponsors thinking it is a contrived competition and not having a bar of it.

"We are happy and it is now important that we push forward and make sure that our sponsors get behind the WAFL now and our members join up."

Cooper labelled the outcome a "reasonable starting point" that would be under regular review.
"We are happy and it is now important that we push forward.""G7 spokesman *Haydn Raitt *
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Raid has Started 11 years 10 months ago #16733

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Interesting isnt..The affiliation or Alignment has actually been used in previous years. So what were the rules when AFL teams were affiliated with Cla and EP... or did they just overlook it? It seems we have a Case of DEJA VU :(


Fremantle

1995–1998 – established and affiliated with the entire WAFL
1999–2001 – affiliated in a host-club arrangement with the South Fremantle Football Club[18]
2002–2013 – after the WAFL clubs voted to end host-club arrangements, returned to an affiliation with the entire WAFL.[19]

From 2014, until at least 2018, Fremantle will be affiliated in a host-club arrangement with the Peel Thunder Football Club.

West Coast

1987–1998 – established and affiliated with the entire WAFL
1999 – affiliated in a host-club arrangement with the Claremont Football Club[20]
2000–2001 – affiliated in a host-club arrangement with the East Perth Football Club[21]
2002–2013 – after the WAFL clubs voted to end host-club arrangements, returned to an affiliation with the entire WAFL.[19]

From 2014, until at least 2018, West Coast will be once again affiliated in a host-club arrangement with the East Perth Football Club.


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Hmmmmmm Two ends against the middle here with the WAFC? On one had we have a Salary Cap for the G7 and on the other we dont have a Salary Cap for 2 teams because by their rules the 2 Aligned clubs AFL players do not fall into the Salary cap as they are paid by their AFL Clubs...It is a twisted web we weave and a play on the rules to suit the occasion. B) Ok Ok they are throwing a bit of money to the G7 clubs is that Shutup money..?

In professional sports, a salary cap (or wage cap) is an agreement or rule that places a limit on the amount of money that a sporting club can spend on player salaries. The limit exists as a per-player limit or a total limit for the team's roster, or both. Several sports leagues have implemented salary caps, both as a method of keeping overall costs down, and to ensure parity between teams so wealthy teams cannot entrench dominance by signing many more top players than their rivals
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