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KTB...not sure what you mean about Subi?
Maybe you can enlighten me.
However if you are saying i just want to have a kick with my mates at a club (you mentioned Wanneroo not me) and they have already "max'ed" their points...then what are you saying?
Gee, are they like what is happening at the moment with AFL and WAFL players going straight from elite levels to play ammos?

The credability of Amatuer football has never been so low

KickTheBall wrote: Help me understand how this points system works. Because a lot of people on here say that the WAFL have it in place and that’s not a level playing field at all, subi still dominate and Perth still struggle!!!

An amateur clubs encourages and invites players to come to there club. If I’m an ex-wafl premiership player and want to play with my mates at lets say for example Wanneroo... but the club has to turn me away because they have already reached there points limit??

Totally different Points systems KTB

The WAFL Player Points system is calculated across the whole senior squad. Subiaco is the only non-aligned club that gets close to the points cap. $ubi load up on high point players to fill their League side (with a few extra in the Reserves) and then counterbalance it with local minimum point players to fill the rest of their senior squad.

The proposed WAAFL Player Points system is calculated on the 22 League players that represent your club each weekend. As an ex-WAFL player you will attract a set points value and the coach then needs to select the best team they can, whilst working within the points cap each week.

Your WAAFL club doesn't have to turn anyone away but they may not be able to select you in the League side every week and you might have to play 2s with your other mates sometimes...not really a problem if players are there to play with their mates. Might be an issue if your there for the cash though and not getting your coin to play 2s.

Player Points systems are used widely across community and country football in SA, Vic and NSW and should be introduced in the WAAFL.

The big question is whether the proposed WAAFL points model is effective in meeting its objectives of minimising player payments by some clubs and providing a more level playing field?

Thanks for giving detail on that redlegs.

If it comes into action this point system I can see it becoming a bit of a headache for coaches.

But the suggested points system is still far better than what we currently have KTB which effectively is a farce!!

I for one am bored with seeing the same few teams contesting the top 5 in A grade.

Scarborough has been a breath of fresh air but success comes at a cost as we all know.

KickTheBall wrote: Thanks for giving detail on that redlegs.

If it comes into action this point system I can see it becoming a bit of a headache for coaches.

The Major wrote: But the suggested points system is still far better than what we currently have KTB which effectively is a farce!!

I for one am bored with seeing the same few teams contesting the top 5 in A grade.

Scarborough has been a breath of fresh air but success comes at a cost as we all know.

Interesting comments Major.

From the 2007 season, 15 clubs have finished in the A Grade Top 5 with the 9 clubs highlighted playing off in the GF:
Collegians, Curtin Uni Wesley, Fremantle CBC, Kalamunda, Kelmscott, Mt Lawley, North Beach, North Fremantle, Scarborough, Stirling, Swan Athletic, Trinity Aquinas, University, Wembley and Whitford.

West Coast and Maddington just missed playing finals during their time in A Grade and Hamersley Carine have unfortunately struggled each time they've been promoted and dropped straight back to B Grade.

The Central Midlands Coastal Football League used this system when I played for Cervantes in 2016.

Local Player 1 Point
Non Local Player 2 Points
Ex WAFL Reserves or state equivalent 3 points
Ex WAFL or state equivalent 4 points
Ex AFL 6 points

The maximum number of points for a league team (22 players must be listed on the team sheet) in the 2015 season was 38 points.
After playing with the same club for three seasons, a 3, 4 or 6 point player could receive a 1 point discount upon application to the league.
If a 3, 4 or 6 point player transferred clubs within the league after having played at another club in the league for three seasons and received the 1 point discount, then the discount would be removed upon completion of the clearance.


The WAAFL could take this information and make a few changes:
Current Club Player 1 Point
Player Recruited from another WAAFL club or any other 'suburban/country level' team 2 Points
Ex WAFL Reserves or state equivalent 3 points
Ex WAFL or state equivalent 4 points
Ex AFL 6 points

The maximum number of points for a league team (22 players) could be trialled at 40 points for the first season and undergo periodic reviews like what happens in Victoria and SA.
After playing with the same club for three seasons, a 2, 3, 4 or 6 point player could receive a 1 point discount upon application to the league.
If a 2, 3, 4 or 6 point player transferred clubs within the league after having played at another club in the league for three seasons and received the 1 point discount, then the discount would be removed upon completion of the clearance.
The points system is only to be applied to the league team and not for reserves, thirds and colts teams.

CasualObserver do you think 40 points is enough??
I just had a look at TAs list they had on the park last week and there points came to 49. In my opinion, dropping an ex-wafl or ex-afl player to the twos would be insulting, and if they didn’t like it we could loose these types of players to maybe country.
Gee wizz i thinks Nollamara’s points would be through the roof if they were in A grade.

KickTheBall wrote: CasualObserver do you think 40 points is enough??
I just had a look at TAs list they had on the park last week and there points came to 49. In my opinion, dropping an ex-wafl or ex-afl player to the twos would be insulting, and if they didn’t like it we could loose these types of players to maybe country.
Gee wizz i thinks Nollamara’s points would be through the roof if they were in A grade.

Points systems are designed to be restrictive and need to be because salary caps which are designed to be restrictive are too hard to police.

How does TAs points compare to other clubs points? High, low or even?

Quick look at University last week was 38 points

KickTheBall wrote: Gee wizz i thinks Nollamara’s points would be through the roof if they were in A grade.

I heard it will be applied to all league sides from A grade to C4.



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As far as I am aware, the AFL recommended guidelines state that once a player’s Player Points Allocation has been determined, a reduction of one point will apply for each ‘Season of Service’ to that player’s Community Club (minimum 5 senior or reserves games per Season), even if not in consecutive years, until the player reaches not less than 1 point.

The local player definition to be adopted has not been addressed on this forum. However, I assume that the WAAFL intends to follow the AFL recommended local player definition for juniors, so that students who play their junior footy in private school competitions, are treated as "local players" if their school is aligned to a senior football club.

If I am wrong, then such a stance will be seen to intentionally discriminatory to the Private schools who are aligned to A & B Grade clubs (TA's, CBC, Wesley & Collegians) whose students play exclusively in their private school competitions and not at district junior clubs.