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Shirtfront wrote: "Though you may have had a few extra questions asked for appointing a coach for the last 2 seasons who it would be fair to say, didn't do a lot of coaching on game days."

This has to be the most ignorant thing anyone has said on this forum in a long time.

I'd suggest it's an informed not an ignorant comment.

Lynch was offered $80k to play at Williamstown in 2015, and have been worth close to that to any WAFL club and possibly half of that at most big country clubs. But played and coached at TAs for $15k?

It was certainly a unique style not seen before. In the 5 games we played TAs not once was he front and centre addressing the group at the 1/4 or 3/4 time huddle as a coach would be expected to do. This role was always carried out by TAs bench coach. Any input Lynch had was nothing more than the input expected from any experienced player.

This unique 'coaching' style was raised by a number of clubs with the WAAFL and also questioned by some senior panel umpires.

Strangely enough none of the other player-coaches in the A Grade saw any merit in this coaching style.

But this won't be an issue in 2017 because Lynch has stepped aside as TAs coach and will now only be playing (presuming for $0, as per the rules) and TAs have quickly appointed their new coach in Spencer who has been TAs bench coach for the last 2 years and had been making the 1/4 and 3/4 time addresses.

Unholytugboat wrote: Some fairly insane arguments being shared here!!

questioning size of clubs, size of ovals, opposition to providing a pathway for juniors.. totally insane. We are community football, we cater for players out in the community who want to play football at whatever level. Clubs should aspire to be what serves the club & community best.

Vicko - Whitfords overflow ground is not a school oval, the WAAFL does indorse it, its not ideal but I am sure a 5th grade side can handle it. You need to ask what is the alternative? turn players away? send them to another club that could potentially have well known cultural issues?

Everyone has whinged about the payment of players, its very well documented on here.. the WAAFL is now addressing concerns the best way they know how by looking what other leagues do.

4 of the larger clubs in the WAAFL Nth Beach, Scarborogh, Nth Fremantle & Whitford are bordered by the indian ocean yet still manage to thrive in numbers. Its because they don't just rock up to play football, they are active in the community and have a large presence, people want to play for them.

Tidy work Unholy, tell us we're all insane, then state that a 5th grade team can handle it, obviously forgetting that Whitfords was one of the few clubs with a 5th's, and were playing mostly 1st's and 3rd's at the time.

This bit takes the cake though. "send them to another club that could potentially have well known cultural issues?" Surely if you have well known cultural issues, they are no longer potential.

And I would suggest that every WAAFL club has members who are active in the community, clubs don't run without people like that.

People become bitter and twisted for many different reasons. Generally, something has happened to them at some stage that they think was unfair.They have been cheated, diddled, passed over, slighted, ignored, left out or generally not been given what they think they deserved.

It's a vital precursor to being bitter and twisted that you’re the kind of person who has done very well for themselves for some years and then things go wrong. They forget that in life, past results are no guarantee of future performance. They begin to believe that the glittering prizes are theirs by divine right. And when these don't materialise, the bitterness sets in.

The longer you hold onto bitterness (in this case since 1999 apparently) the stronger it gets. Bitter people will preserve and even burnish a trivial event from the ancient past. In his own way, Redlegs is a little mobile repository of his own long-forgotten history. Perhaps it may have been an early Tommy Parker tackle that left his A Grade dreams in tatters, after just one solitary game.

In the past I’ve applied a little humour with bitter and twisted people like Redlegs by having a good laugh about whatever it is that's gnawing at their vitals. Sadly, if Redlegs had a sense of humour, he wouldn't have got things so badly out of proportion in the first place.

Redlegs is happy to attack quality individuals like Quinten Lynch with the publication of a range of false defamatory imputations, which are clearly intended to reflect on the reputation of a person who is held in the highest regard by those who know him.

I guess in the bigoted, narrow self delusional world of Redlegs, nobody ever does anything for the right reasons, it must always be motivated by monetary returns, hence the nonsensical complaints about coaching and what financial reward might otherwise have been achieved at other levels of football.

Redlegs starts with all his corrupt arguments with a given, pre-set belief which becomes his "fact" or conclusion and then searches for any reasonable or reasonable-sounding argument to rationalize, defend or justify it. Hence, his puerile “coaching gate” accusations.

Thankfully Redlegs never applied his own set of criteria to his own club.

I just hope that Redlegs does not speak in any official capacity for his football club, because there are some outstanding people at his club that deserve better than the rubbish he continues to dish up each season.

This is my last post on the subject, because as the saying goes “Don’t answer the foolish arguments of fools or you will become as foolish as they are”.

Just personal opinion based on some fact, some observations and some resulting conclusions made rightly or wrongly?

At the end of the day I'm on the outside looking in, those on the inside looking out will always have a different view.

Big Al iff you want to use silly quotes I'll join in with 'methinks the Big Al doth protest too much"

Vicko21 wrote:

Unholytugboat wrote: Some fairly insane arguments being shared here!!

questioning size of clubs, size of ovals, opposition to providing a pathway for juniors.. totally insane. We are community football, we cater for players out in the community who want to play football at whatever level. Clubs should aspire to be what serves the club & community best.

Vicko - Whitfords overflow ground is not a school oval, the WAAFL does indorse it, its not ideal but I am sure a 5th grade side can handle it. You need to ask what is the alternative? turn players away? send them to another club that could potentially have well known cultural issues?

Everyone has whinged about the payment of players, its very well documented on here.. the WAAFL is now addressing concerns the best way they know how by looking what other leagues do.

4 of the larger clubs in the WAAFL Nth Beach, Scarborogh, Nth Fremantle & Whitford are bordered by the indian ocean yet still manage to thrive in numbers. Its because they don't just rock up to play football, they are active in the community and have a large presence, people want to play for them.

Tidy work Unholy, tell us we're all insane, then state that a 5th grade team can handle it, obviously forgetting that Whitfords was one of the few clubs with a 5th's, and were playing mostly 1st's and 3rd's at the time.

This bit takes the cake though. "send them to another club that could potentially have well known cultural issues?" Surely if you have well known cultural issues, they are no longer potential.

And I would suggest that every WAAFL club has members who are active in the community, clubs don't run without people like that.

I would suggest any team participating in e grade or lower would not have any issues being referred to as a 5th grade. Simple maths can tell us this.
A-1
B-2
C-3
D-4
E-5

" potentially well known cultural issue." = My way of politely not slinging shit at a club.

I think big al & redlegs raise some valid points, the bit we might be forgetting is that the waafl represent the clubs.

It is probably that the waafl are not reacting to paid players but the fact clubs are accusing and complaining. Big difference.

Mate, why don't you tell the whole story, Lynch was offered big dollars from West Perth and Perth however with a young family he wanted to put something back into football, he attended Aquinas College, he lives near the ground, two of his best mates from school were still playing at Trinity Aquinas. He is a country boy full of integrity and was happy to go and play with some mates from his school days. On match day, it was smart to get the playing coach focus on the footy, no one at Trinity Aquinas would doubt for one second he was the main man and coach.Many guys would love to have an Old Boys team, Trinity Aquinas played the A Grade Grand Final with 10 players from Aquinas and 10 players from Trinity. The schools have a strong football culture and returning to play for the Old Boys is enjoyed by all. Much of the money comments are pure jealousy. It is easy to get on an online forum and attack a guys character and tell only half the story. If you cannot get the mateship and school connection you don't understand what drives the Trinity Aquinas culture.

Very interesting meeting at Subiaco Oval on this matter last night.

Very disappointing that with Clubs allowed 3 representatives each, only 32 people attended.

The meeting was addressed by the Chairman of Adelaide Footy (equivalent to the WAAFL).

They introduced a points system followed by a salary cap later on - if they were doing it now, they would implement both together.

Weekly salary cap $3000, $3500 for country leagues.
$400 per week max per player, $500 for country.
$300 per week, per team in match awards.

The same figures apply to all Grades.

Most Clubs do not use either the full salary cap or the full number of points.

Inter-Club player transfers have declined from 1600 per year to 900.

Their Colts are under 18's. The number of Clubs fielding Colts teams has recovered dramatically over the last 5 years, but is not yet back to previous levels.

Adelaide Footy also administers the metro woman's football competition. Most Clubs remain all male, some are combined, some are female only. The number of adult female players have way more than doubled over the last 5 years, with more than 1200 registered this year.

The number of male senior players is stable, as is the number of teams competing.

The number of Clubs and teams in the competition is similar to Club/team numbers in WA.

The number of 'on field' incidents have declined dramatically. He doesn't know if this is related to the points/salary system but the number have dropped every year since the system was introduced.

Sounds great except apparently clubs already pay players when it's not allowed so what's stopping them from breaking a salary cap?

Their Colts are under 18's. The number of Clubs fielding Colts teams has recovered dramatically over the last 5 years, but is not yet back to previous levels.

this is the most important move the WAAFL needs to make. Colts are not 20 year olds, colts are under 18's