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Senior Seagull wrote:

Peter North wrote:

swan42 wrote:

Peter North wrote:

swan42 wrote: Why is it acceptable to have Catholic masses said in Polish, Italian, Latin etc in Australia. Why are they not all forced to celebrate the mass in English only?

There are limits to what one is allowed to say; there is no implicit right that we can say what ever we like.

I was brought up as Catholic and never heard mass in any other language other than english, I don't really know what your point is.

If you like I can provide links to masses within the Perth Archdiocese that are celebrated in several languages. E.g. Polish, Italian, Latin to name just three languages. My point is pretty simple. If we are all required to assimilate how is that acceptable?

You can show me what you like last time I checked the Catholic Church isn't committing terrorist acts, When they start doing it people can speak out about it.

Peter you say the catholic church isn't or hasn't committed terrorist acts? We, and when I say we I include myself, condemn those who say they perpetrate heinous acts in the name of Islam, we should not forget those of the catholic faith and not forgetting the proddies who, in the name of their beliefs committed horrendous terrorist acts in Northern Ireland and England and vast numbers of catholic clergy who have committed sexual atrocities against innocent children for decades only to have the Catholic church protect them and knowingly allow them to continue their unspeakable evil. The problem generally is that any organized religion in any form seeks to take away an individuals independent thoughts and acts so that they can be controlled and used to whatever ends that religion preaches as the word of God, whatever form that God takes.

Sonia Krugers statements were by any measure quite mild and said because, in her words, she has been made to feel unsafe in her own country and fears for herself and her family that the things that have happened in Europe and the middle east, mostly in the name of Islam and mostly since the tragic mass exodus of Moslems from their homelands into Europe may happen here, as amongst the mostly simple and peaceful refugees that have been scattered all over Europe there are a core of hateful dangerous radical terrorists that are and will continue to perpetrate these so called lone wolf acts killing hundreds of innocents each time. These lone wolf attacks create far more terror & fear than a 9/11 as they are so close to home in every day places like the Lindt café in Sydney.

Organised religions preach respect and tolerance but then condemn any other form of faith, Islam does that and the catholic church does that. There is no moral high ground when organized religion is involved. True peace will not happen until individuals choose to respect and tolerate other individuals and in return receive the same respect and tolerance.

Let me start by saying I'm not a practising Catholic havnt been for thirty odd years, but I know if I accuse that church of anything I won't have to worry about a Fatwa being put on my head.

I don't see the Catholic Church denouncing gays and that's they should be stoned to death or do I see the church treating women like second hand citizens , or wanting sharia law in our society.

You're right all religions are for people that believe in fairies, but as it stands Islam is the problem and I don't get that most Moslems are peaceful if push comes to shove in this country they will choose their religion over our way of life ffs I havnt seen one imam come out and condemn any terrorist act, lets not shy away from the real problem which is Islam.

Thanks thought you would like it Grassy

DD wrote: S42, did you listen to Trumps recent first speech since officially becoming the Republican nominee? He's a roll your sleeves up kind of guy who gets things done. His No 1 priority is to restore law and order and make America safe again. I wish we had one here, I think we did until Clive Palmers empire crumbled. People are sick and tired of political correctness that comes out of the mouths of mainstream politicians. That's the message that is coming from the people and that is why the likes of Pauline Hanson and Donald Trump are growing in popularity.

DD I have seen and heard more than enough of Donald Trump to suggest that if he were to win the presidency we would be on the brink of a world war and/or trade war. That the world would be vastly less safe due to homegrown terrorism because of his inane belief that he could bomb the terrorist into extinction. He like Pauline Hanson and John Howard play the base, racist card and we can only hope that the Americans have enough sense to elect Clinton.

Peter North wrote:

Senior Seagull wrote:

Peter North wrote:

swan42 wrote:

Peter North wrote:

swan42 wrote: Why is it acceptable to have Catholic masses said in Polish, Italian, Latin etc in Australia. Why are they not all forced to celebrate the mass in English only?

There are limits to what one is allowed to say; there is no implicit right that we can say what ever we like.

I was brought up as Catholic and never heard mass in any other language other than english, I don't really know what your point is.

If you like I can provide links to masses within the Perth Archdiocese that are celebrated in several languages. E.g. Polish, Italian, Latin to name just three languages. My point is pretty simple. If we are all required to assimilate how is that acceptable?

You can show me what you like last time I checked the Catholic Church isn't committing terrorist acts, When they start doing it people can speak out about it.

Peter you say the catholic church isn't or hasn't committed terrorist acts? We, and when I say we I include myself, condemn those who say they perpetrate heinous acts in the name of Islam, we should not forget those of the catholic faith and not forgetting the proddies who, in the name of their beliefs committed horrendous terrorist acts in Northern Ireland and England and vast numbers of catholic clergy who have committed sexual atrocities against innocent children for decades only to have the Catholic church protect them and knowingly allow them to continue their unspeakable evil. The problem generally is that any organized religion in any form seeks to take away an individuals independent thoughts and acts so that they can be controlled and used to whatever ends that religion preaches as the word of God, whatever form that God takes.

Sonia Krugers statements were by any measure quite mild and said because, in her words, she has been made to feel unsafe in her own country and fears for herself and her family that the things that have happened in Europe and the middle east, mostly in the name of Islam and mostly since the tragic mass exodus of Moslems from their homelands into Europe may happen here, as amongst the mostly simple and peaceful refugees that have been scattered all over Europe there are a core of hateful dangerous radical terrorists that are and will continue to perpetrate these so called lone wolf acts killing hundreds of innocents each time. These lone wolf attacks create far more terror & fear than a 9/11 as they are so close to home in every day places like the Lindt café in Sydney.

Organised religions preach respect and tolerance but then condemn any other form of faith, Islam does that and the catholic church does that. There is no moral high ground when organized religion is involved. True peace will not happen until individuals choose to respect and tolerate other individuals and in return receive the same respect and tolerance.

Let me start by saying I'm not a practising Catholic havnt been for thirty odd years, but I know if I accuse that church of anything I won't have to worry about a Fatwa being put on my head.

I don't see the Catholic Church denouncing gays and that's they should be stoned to death or do I see the church treating women like second hand citizens , or wanting sharia law in our society.

You're right all religions are for people that believe in fairies, but as it stands Islam is the problem and I don't get that most Moslems are peaceful if push comes to shove in this country they will choose their religion over our way of life ffs I havnt seen one imam come out and condemn any terrorist act, lets not shy away from the real problem which is Islam.

Firstly, your comment and I quote "You're right all religions are for people that believe in fairies" is not correct. I made no comment about a person's beliefs. Secondly, how on earth can Australia get Sharia Law?

swan42 wrote:

Peter North wrote:

Senior Seagull wrote:

Peter North wrote:

swan42 wrote:

Peter North wrote:

swan42 wrote: Why is it acceptable to have Catholic masses said in Polish, Italian, Latin etc in Australia. Why are they not all forced to celebrate the mass in English only?

There are limits to what one is allowed to say; there is no implicit right that we can say what ever we like.

I was brought up as Catholic and never heard mass in any other language other than english, I don't really know what your point is.

If you like I can provide links to masses within the Perth Archdiocese that are celebrated in several languages. E.g. Polish, Italian, Latin to name just three languages. My point is pretty simple. If we are all required to assimilate how is that acceptable?

You can show me what you like last time I checked the Catholic Church isn't committing terrorist acts, When they start doing it people can speak out about it.

Peter you say the catholic church isn't or hasn't committed terrorist acts? We, and when I say we I include myself, condemn those who say they perpetrate heinous acts in the name of Islam, we should not forget those of the catholic faith and not forgetting the proddies who, in the name of their beliefs committed horrendous terrorist acts in Northern Ireland and England and vast numbers of catholic clergy who have committed sexual atrocities against innocent children for decades only to have the Catholic church protect them and knowingly allow them to continue their unspeakable evil. The problem generally is that any organized religion in any form seeks to take away an individuals independent thoughts and acts so that they can be controlled and used to whatever ends that religion preaches as the word of God, whatever form that God takes.

Sonia Krugers statements were by any measure quite mild and said because, in her words, she has been made to feel unsafe in her own country and fears for herself and her family that the things that have happened in Europe and the middle east, mostly in the name of Islam and mostly since the tragic mass exodus of Moslems from their homelands into Europe may happen here, as amongst the mostly simple and peaceful refugees that have been scattered all over Europe there are a core of hateful dangerous radical terrorists that are and will continue to perpetrate these so called lone wolf acts killing hundreds of innocents each time. These lone wolf attacks create far more terror & fear than a 9/11 as they are so close to home in every day places like the Lindt café in Sydney.

Organised religions preach respect and tolerance but then condemn any other form of faith, Islam does that and the catholic church does that. There is no moral high ground when organized religion is involved. True peace will not happen until individuals choose to respect and tolerate other individuals and in return receive the same respect and tolerance.

Let me start by saying I'm not a practising Catholic havnt been for thirty odd years, but I know if I accuse that church of anything I won't have to worry about a Fatwa being put on my head.

I don't see the Catholic Church denouncing gays and that's they should be stoned to death or do I see the church treating women like second hand citizens , or wanting sharia law in our society.

You're right all religions are for people that believe in fairies, but as it stands Islam is the problem and I don't get that most Moslems are peaceful if push comes to shove in this country they will choose their religion over our way of life ffs I havnt seen one imam come out and condemn any terrorist act, lets not shy away from the real problem which is Islam.

Firstly, your comment and I quote "You're right all religions are for people that believe in fairies" is not correct. I made no comment about a person's beliefs. Secondly, how on earth can Australia get Sharia Law?

Your first point , well in that case I hope I end up in heaven and get my fair share of virgins, on your second point I don't know how that would happen in Austrslian but I'm sure the Muslims would be happy if it could, I've heard talk about the possibility of it happening in certain saturated areas of Britain.

The entire multicultural project is BS to me, we should of made sure our migration remained majority European with an additional careful mix of other nationalities.

Whether its Somalian and Sudanese gangs, nutter rag heads from the middle east, pouring 1000s of Chinese and Indians into Sydney and Melbourne wrecking and over loading infrastructure its just a massive recipe for social disaster.

Good on Sonia, besides she is a hot looker.

Grassy wrote: Just out of interest,be curious to know what the population figure in Australia, is of those of the Islamic faith.

When is our next Census?This year isn't it?

this year, I already have my online letter, its done online now.

swan42 wrote: Why is it acceptable to have Catholic masses said in Polish, Italian, Latin etc in Australia. Why are they not all forced to celebrate the mass in English only?

There are limits to what one is allowed to say; there is no implicit right that we can say what ever we like.

Whats the use of language got to do with it?

There are certain limits to free speech , such as slander, disorderly behaviour etc , but they are a long way from being able to comment freely on political issues.

Bazza wrote: The entire multicultural project is BS to me, we should of made sure our migration remained majority European with an additional careful mix of other nationalities.

Whether its Somalian and Sudanese gangs, nutter rag heads from the middle east, pouring 1000s of Chinese and Indians into Sydney and Melbourne wrecking and over loading infrastructure its just a massive recipe for social disaster.

Good on Sonia, besides she is a hot looker.

Bazza, I had the Somalians and Sudanese clerics in the shop I work at in Mirrabooka yesterday telling me that the shop was not wanted in the area and that business was going to be bad for us and better for us if we close our doors. Pointed out that I'm the wrong guy to speak to as I didn't own the shop, that this was Australia where alcohol can be legally sold and consumed because the govt says so, that they could buy the shop as it is available for sale if they really wanted it gone and politely advised them were also now on our CCTV footage so please smile for the camera if they think they can bully us and say hello to their mates at ASIO. Fkn wannabe gangsters dressed in onesy skirts attempting to intimidate. Already past the point of no return in this area of Mirrabooka. Do not be surprised if we have some gangland shootings similar to the US in the area over the next couple of years. i wonder if the PC brigade in the media will ever report the reality of the drug turf war that is happening right here in this area of Perth to be exposed for what it is...i wonder where the money goes???