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Russell Ebert 8 years 9 months ago #99261

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ArkRoyal wrote: same thing happened with Peake when he went to Geelong in the middle the 1981 season; apparentlly some of the Victorians referred to him 'as passed his Peake'. On the whole, the man faced a hiding to nothing going over there and being named captain. Just quickly on PA, does the SANFL club still exist or has it been subsumed into the Victorian monstrosity?


The SANFL Port Adelaide hasn't existed since 2014. That's when the AFL club took over the running of the team. They don't even field a team in the colts competition anymore.

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Russell Ebert 8 years 9 months ago #99262

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I just heard an interview with Ebert about his days at North.

He says he used to fly from Adelaide to Melbourne to train on Tuesday. Flew back to Adelaide on Tuesday night. Flew back to Melbourne to train on Thursday. Stayed in Melbourne for the match and flew back to Adelaide on Sat night. He said it took too much out of him and his family and he told Barassi that one year of that was enough for him and his young family.

But I admire the South Australians for either never going to the VFL or doing it only after they had achieved what they set out to in the SANFL. Even Malcolm Blight said he always dreamed of playing for Woodville wanted to play 100 games for them first and then have a crack at VFL.

Many never left. Very passionate about their SANFL club.

I guess footy caught on in SA way before it did here. I was astonished to learn that we were a rugby state for much of our early history and if it wasn't for the discovery of gold and the rush of Vics heading west we probably would have stayed that way.

I'm going to try and dig up some of those old historical pieces. The meetings at town halls/pubs to change the code from rugby to victorian rules, the resistance from many and even calls to change back to rugby into the early part of the 20th century. Some clubs changed from rugby to footy over the space of one day. How the players adapted I'll never know. I guess they had a knowledge of both codes. Even in a 1921 football budget I read there is a reference to the issue where the editor states that we can now see that the right decision was made to drop rugby and adopt the victorian code despite some initial doubts.

I'll get onto this. You won't believe your eyes when you read about it.

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Russell Ebert 8 years 9 months ago #99263

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Heres some historical data taken from The Western Mail newspaper in 1939. There are other articles about the resistance somewhere if I can find them

Records show that the game was
played in Western Australia in the early
eighties of last century. It was then in
its infancy, struggling for a foothold, and
was only played by a few-people who had
migrated from East to the West. The
dominating game then in this State was
Rugby, most of whose players were Eng-
lishmen or sons of West Australian fam-
ilies who had been educated in England.
In 1882 a letter appeared in "The West
Australian," signed by a correspondent
"G," who deplored the fact that the Vic-
torian or bouncing game was not played
in the Colony. He regretted, he said,
that Perth players did not play the same game, three of the clubs being governed
by Rugby rules, while the fourth played
the Victorian game

Although he did
not discuss the respective merits of the
two games, he based his advocacy of a
universal game on the fact that if West-
ern Australia were to receive a challenge
from Melbourne or Adelaide, they would
be unable to accept it.

Genesis of the Game.
On March 30, 1883, an historic meet-
ing was held at Flindell's Hotel, Fre-
mantle, when a new football club was
formed to play under the Victorian rules.
The leading lights in this movement
were W. A. ("Bill") Bateman and H. Her-
bert, the former being elected captain.
Both these members had been educated
in Adelaide and, on returning to their
homes in Fremantle, had proceeded to in-
terest and coach their friends in the
game they had learned while away. This
movement was the genesis for the estab-
lishment of the game in Western Aus-
tralia, although matches were at first
played among club members. The club
was known as "Swans."
Then, on April 27, 1885, another step
forward was made when, at a meeting
of the Fremantle (Rugby) Football Club,
an animated discussion took place as to
whether the club should play under
Rugby or Victorian rules. It was ul-
timately decided "to play under associa-tion rules, the same as adjoining Col-
onies." W. A. Bateman was appointed
captain with A. Newham as secretary
and treasurer. This was the Fremantle
Club and its colours were recorded as
blue and white.

A newspaper advertisement appeared
about that time, headed "to Footballers,"
and Inviting gentlemen willing to assist
in the formation of a football club to
play under Victorian rules to attend a
meeting at Chipper's Hotel. The meet-
ing was adjourned owing to poor at-
tendance, but on May 2 of the same year
the Victorian Club was formed, the of-
fice-bearers being as follows:-President,
J. C. H. James; secretary, H. R. Dixon;
captain, H. E. Rankin; vice-captain. H.
S. Haussen; committee members, Messrs.
Longson and Lake.
Controlling Body.
Another important step was made in
1885 when the first controlling body in
the State was formed. Representatives
from the Fremantle, Rovers and Victorian
clubs met at the Criterion Hotel and it
was decided to change over in a body
from Rugby to Victorian football. The
outcome of the meeting was the forma-
tion of the West Australian Football As-
sociation.

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Russell Ebert 8 years 9 months ago #99264

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Thanks for all the replies about PA pointting to its demise, which is sad to be honest; but as I remember, the club also committed the original sin, applying to join the expanded VFL, thereby breaking with the SANFL.
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Russell Ebert 8 years 9 months ago #99267

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Anch: true -- so did WP when Rod Brown was President; it does not mean that in any of the three cases, it was the right thing to do.

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