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Grump wrote: As I understand it this was broken by Reimers to one of the local meida outlets, why wait til' now and why do it in a manner that smacks of publicity and a bit of a dummy spit.

He obviously thought it was ok while Essendon were paying his wages but now it is Perth ...... .

Does it matter? Drug use is drug use!

Lets be honest. No way will they ban Essendon from the comp like Gerard Heally said. There's no way they will ban bulk amounts of players, no way will James Hird get the sack. It will be a tough one for the AFL but it will inevitably be a wrist slap job for the club and players. It will be the doctors to go down. Mark my words.

And the fact they struggled to win a game is a good excuse for them to say it wasn't performance enhancing

If guilty they at the VERY least should play the season for no points like the Melbourne Storm had to. Explains why they had so many soft tissues injuries last year too...

Dingo, if you know anything about Peptides you will know that they dont increase the chances of soft tissue injury. This was just a by product of their training load.

Heads need to roll, 4 amateur rugby league players were banned from 2-4 years in Queensland last year that took the stuff.

Bigger issue now is that the AFL have admitted to suspending players last year when they took illegal drugs and passed them off as 'general soreness'. Anyone remember any high profile names missing weeks with general soreness last year?

My understanding is now that ASADA have become involved in the case it will be this agency that determines the fate of the Club / Officials / Players /Doctors & staff. If the Club or individuals within the structure of the Club are found guilty the punishment will be determined & set by ASADA...not the AFL.

58shark wrote:

Grump wrote: As I understand it this was broken by Reimers to one of the local meida outlets, why wait til' now and why do it in a manner that smacks of publicity and a bit of a dummy spit.

He obviously thought it was ok while Essendon were paying his wages but now it is Perth ...... .

Does it matter? Drug use is drug use!

Spot on 58Shark

Yeah understood mate, I was thinking that the possible drug use increased their workload capacity, hence the soft tissue injuries perhaps?

Quite ironic, just had a quick look at the Bombers website, their catchcry is "Whatever it takes!!"

Sacko wrote: Lets be honest. No way will they ban Essendon from the comp like Gerard Heally said. There's no way they will ban bulk amounts of players, no way will James Hird get the sack. It will be a tough one for the AFL but it will inevitably be a wrist slap job for the club and players. It will be the doctors to go down. Mark my words.

And the fact they struggled to win a game is a good excuse for them to say it wasn't performance enhancing

Personally I think they won't "ban" Essendon from the AFL - the ramifications this would have for the tv deal would hurt everyone. However I don't see why they can't hand out mass suspensions to players - they are setting a very bad precedent if they don't.

Like Cadwallader et al they should get a 2 year ban from footy. Anything less is a disgrace.

Grump wrote: As I understand it this was broken by Reimers to one of the local meida outlets, why wait til' now and why do it in a manner that smacks of publicity and a bit of a dummy spit.

He obviously thought it was ok while Essendon were paying his wages but now it is Perth ...... .

My understanding of it all is that Gerard Healy has been all over this since late last year and passed what info he knew onto the AFL back then.