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yolo swaggins wrote: Its a fucking disgrace that we are now killing sharks like this. People need to realise that we are in THEIR TERRITORY, there is no way the sharks deserve to be killed. Does a hippo or croc deserve to be killed if someone gets killed swimming in a pool in Africa? No. Does a bear deserve to be shot if it kills someone bush walking in Northern America? No. Same story goes for sharks.
You swim at the beach at your own risk, just the same as you drive your car at your own risk or ride a bike at your own risk. It just makes sense that there is more shark attacks now than there was 10/20/30 years ago... Australias population is greatly increasing ever day. The more people there are, the more people there are swimming at the beach which can only mean that there will be more attacks. Will there be more attacks in 20 years? I would say so, yes... unless we have killed them all which is highly possible when we have moronic fuckstains making these decisions. Sharks are amazing creatures and definitely do no deserve to be killed because they have chomped on a few people. The last thing we should want is for sharks to go the way of the dodo.
As for shark nets, they could work. The only issue with them is the fact that they catch and kill so many innocent sea creatures. If people dont want to risk swimming at the beach then go and swim in a pool!
And FYI, I have this opinion even though I have personally been chased in by sharks twice in my 28 year life. I have also freedived with them up north, it was one of the most amazing moments of my life.

Agree 100% with you on this.

All we need to do is install the barriers Cockburn are trialing at a few major beaches, Put up a sign saying this area is safe, but if you go out side you do so at your own risk. pretty bloody simple and a lot cheaper, I cant beleive they are paying some idiot $5000 a day every day till April down south, the halfwit didnt even know the difference between a tiger and a bull shark, whole things a joke.

reminds me of the red neck frenzy in the movie jaws when they had the meeting in the town hall and all went nuts.

Demons Forever wrote: I don't know what the fuss is about.
Fishermen have been culling them for years.
Allow them to do it again.
Conservationists need to get real and examine the real facts particularly about the affect instead of being irrational and emotional.
I would have thought that human life is important, maybe I'm wrong according to the conservationists.
CONSERVE HUMANS I SAY.

Actually the cull goes against all the rational researched facts and the advice by marine biologists and scientists, fisheries actually adviced against the cull, but barnett ignored the advice, the Uni in the USA offered to tag and relase for free - once again - ignored, the ones who tried to rely on emtotice fear where the pollies who apparently think the entire population of WA is shitting bricks about sharks...barnett as stuffed this one up big time.,and thats coming from someoen that voted for him.

swan42 wrote:

Soprano wrote: I am not overly happy about the sharks being culled, but when peoples lives are at risk then I say it is better a shark being culled than a mother/father/son/daughter being killed. Yes we are swimming in their territory, but swimming at the beach is also a humans territory as well. If you want to swim 300m-1km offshore, then I believe you do so at your own risk, but when you are just down at the beach on a hot summers day, you should not be scared of the water because of 3+m great whites.

The great white is not going to go extinct, the government has not issued a worldwide 3m+ cull on sharks. They are doing it to protect the people. So what happens when the government does nothing about the sharks, and another person's life is taken, who do we blame? The goverment. When they do something about it, who do we blame? The Government.

To me they are trying to make it safer for the humans, I am all for that. If their ends up being a better way to do this and it means not culling sharks, then I will definately be all for that as well. But at the moment, it seems this is the most effective way.

Soprano my problem with what is going on is that there is no sound scientific evidence that this is going to resolve the problem I pose the hypothetical situation, which hopefully won't happen, what de we do if there is another shark attack near the 'drum-lined' beaches?

Exactly - what do we do, just go into more wild panic kneee jerk reactions. 6 people have been taken I think in 14 years, most were miles off and in remote places, one was at Esperance at a remote surf beach, a couple down south in surf breaks meters and meters off sure, in very high risk areas, others have been scuba divers - once again in deep water. There have only been 2 attacks at metro beaches, both at Cott, one confirmed and one suspected ( body never found) both were over 50 meters out - so thats 9 metro beaches in nearly 200 years that have never had a fatal shark attack.

no body has been taken in the areas most people swim in at the beach, within 30 meters or less, I go to Cott and swmim in summer all the time, if you use your brains and and dont expose yourself to high risk areas your fine. Sometimes I have seen nut cases nearly 150 meters out, ALONE swimming up and down North Cott,,WTF?? and people wonder why there are shark attacks???

Bazza wrote:

swan42 wrote:

Soprano wrote: I am not overly happy about the sharks being culled, but when peoples lives are at risk then I say it is better a shark being culled than a mother/father/son/daughter being killed. Yes we are swimming in their territory, but swimming at the beach is also a humans territory as well. If you want to swim 300m-1km offshore, then I believe you do so at your own risk, but when you are just down at the beach on a hot summers day, you should not be scared of the water because of 3+m great whites.

The great white is not going to go extinct, the government has not issued a worldwide 3m+ cull on sharks. They are doing it to protect the people. So what happens when the government does nothing about the sharks, and another person's life is taken, who do we blame? The goverment. When they do something about it, who do we blame? The Government.

To me they are trying to make it safer for the humans, I am all for that. If their ends up being a better way to do this and it means not culling sharks, then I will definately be all for that as well. But at the moment, it seems this is the most effective way.

Soprano my problem with what is going on is that there is no sound scientific evidence that this is going to resolve the problem I pose the hypothetical situation, which hopefully won't happen, what de we do if there is another shark attack near the 'drum-lined' beaches?

Exactly - what do we do, just go into more wild panic kneee jerk reactions. 6 people have been taken I think in 14 years, most were miles off and in remote places, one was at Esperance at a remote surf beach, a couple down south in surf breaks meters and meters off sure, in very high risk areas, others have been scuba divers - once again in deep water. There have only been 2 attacks at metro beaches, both at Cott, one confirmed and one suspected ( body never found) both were over 50 meters out - so thats 9 metro beaches in nearly 200 years that have never had a fatal shark attack.

no body has been taken in the areas most people swim in at the beach, within 30 meters or less, I go to Cott and swmim in summer all the time, if you use your brains and and dont expose yourself to high risk areas your fine. Sometimes I have seen nut cases nearly 150 meters out, ALONE swimming up and down North Cott,,WTF?? and people wonder why there are shark attacks???

While I agree with all you say above Bazza, I think you'll find the year 2000 attack at Cottesloe of Ken Crewe was very close to shore.

Wow! I'm having recurring nightmares about all the fish I've caught and consumed over the years and not released to their natural habitat....including some sharks! I hope that all those who protest will refrain from ordering fish....particularly shark from their local Fish and Chip shop!

ruddiger wrote:

Bazza wrote:

swan42 wrote:

Soprano wrote: I am not overly happy about the sharks being culled, but when peoples lives are at risk then I say it is better a shark being culled than a mother/father/son/daughter being killed. Yes we are swimming in their territory, but swimming at the beach is also a humans territory as well. If you want to swim 300m-1km offshore, then I believe you do so at your own risk, but when you are just down at the beach on a hot summers day, you should not be scared of the water because of 3+m great whites.

The great white is not going to go extinct, the government has not issued a worldwide 3m+ cull on sharks. They are doing it to protect the people. So what happens when the government does nothing about the sharks, and another person's life is taken, who do we blame? The goverment. When they do something about it, who do we blame? The Government.

To me they are trying to make it safer for the humans, I am all for that. If their ends up being a better way to do this and it means not culling sharks, then I will definately be all for that as well. But at the moment, it seems this is the most effective way.

Soprano my problem with what is going on is that there is no sound scientific evidence that this is going to resolve the problem I pose the hypothetical situation, which hopefully won't happen, what de we do if there is another shark attack near the 'drum-lined' beaches?

Exactly - what do we do, just go into more wild panic kneee jerk reactions. 6 people have been taken I think in 14 years, most were miles off and in remote places, one was at Esperance at a remote surf beach, a couple down south in surf breaks meters and meters off sure, in very high risk areas, others have been scuba divers - once again in deep water. There have only been 2 attacks at metro beaches, both at Cott, one confirmed and one suspected ( body never found) both were over 50 meters out - so thats 9 metro beaches in nearly 200 years that have never had a fatal shark attack.

no body has been taken in the areas most people swim in at the beach, within 30 meters or less, I go to Cott and swmim in summer all the time, if you use your brains and and dont expose yourself to high risk areas your fine. Sometimes I have seen nut cases nearly 150 meters out, ALONE swimming up and down North Cott,,WTF?? and people wonder why there are shark attacks???

While I agree with all you say above Bazza, I think you'll find the year 2000 attack at Cottesloe of Ken Crewe was very close to shore.

mate i was one of the coppers that attended the ken crew incident , he was at least 50 meters out.

We need a cull of humans not sharks. Particularly the economic refugees flooding in from the eastern states and NZ.

Better off spending the money on building a bogan-proof fence along the WA-SA/NT border.

Soprano wrote: I am not overly happy about the sharks being culled, but when peoples lives are at risk then I say it is better a shark being culled than a mother/father/son/daughter being killed. Yes we are swimming in their territory, but swimming at the beach is also a humans territory as well. If you want to swim 300m-1km offshore, then I believe you do so at your own risk, but when you are just down at the beach on a hot summers day, you should not be scared of the water because of 3+m great whites.

The great white is not going to go extinct, the government has not issued a worldwide 3m+ cull on sharks. They are doing it to protect the people. So what happens when the government does nothing about the sharks, and another person's life is taken, who do we blame? The goverment. When they do something about it, who do we blame? The Government.

To me they are trying to make it safer for the humans, I am all for that. If their ends up being a better way to do this and it means not culling sharks, then I will definately be all for that as well. But at the moment, it seems this is the most effective way.

1 - Bullshit. If the ocean was 'our territory' then we would be able to breath underwater or be able to swim to stupid depths no questions asked.

2 - Male great whites dont reach maturity until at earliest 3.5mtrs, and females 4mtrs. So we kill all the great whites that have reached maturity, and some that probably havent. What happens next? There are no mature sharks to give birth / breed. What happens next?
Once again humans are trying to play god and it aint going to work.

Custodian wrote: Wow! I'm having recurring nightmares about all the fish I've caught and consumed over the years and not released to their natural habitat....including some sharks! I hope that all those who protest will refrain from ordering fish....particularly shark from their local Fish and Chip shop!

Idiot.
Killing something for food and killing something "just because" are 2 completely different things.

Went home for xmas and was amazed to see so many folk out 75 plus meters swimming, paddle boarding, kayaking, kite surfing etc more often by themselves.......fair game if you ask me........I'm all for being adventurous and folk doing what they want or like to do......but thems the risks.....just got to weigh them up and accept the consequences if they should arise........I bet these same folk wouldn't walk through the bush in their bare feet because of snakes.........lets cull those little bastards as well.........

Sharks havent got a choice but to live in the sea..........humans have......yeah make it safe for folk to enjoy the water.......but folk also got to be accountable for their choices......and life is full of choices.....some folk just need to realise for every action there is a reaction.