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Now i dont have solar panels.......yet.......but hows the form?? Lying, cheating, filthy bastards......you wait, they will reneg and the rest of us will pay even more!!! Prison locations, rail networks, solar rebates, lies,lies,lies,lies. ive gad a gutfull!

Although its not a lie, I very pissed off he changed the name of Foundation Day it is total bullshir,

And listening to Buswell on the radio this morning has not instilled a great deal of confidence either!

Yeah, can you believe the arrogance of the prick!!!!! "our advice is we can"!!!! Re the solar rebates. What about the poor pricks who installed these things believing the pricks!!!! We as west ausies should msrch on parliament and kick the pricks out!!!

3 Points.
1. Solar panels and wind generators are the most inefficient way to produce power when you incorporate the amount of energy that was and will be used to MAKE, INSTALL AND MAINTAIN them. Or if you’re a greenie they produce more co2 emissions in production and installation than they save.
2. The majority of solar panels installed have a very poor conversion rate.
3. What we pay for them in Australia is a bloody rip-off.
So all up they’re bad science and not as good for the environment as we are led to believe by the pinko greenies, we’ll never get the quoted energy conversions plus we’re ripped off in our initial costings by the manufacturers and installers every time there is a rebate applied.
Go figure.
See chart.

A politician lying? No way!!!

@Devon:
1 - wow, did not know that. I knew that Prius cars (cant believe people actually drive those pieces of shit) were of the same effect.
2 - true.
3 - What we pay for everything in Aus is a rip off. Its a fucking joke. Just have a look at iTunes prices between Aus and the US. How the fuck can they justify that shit, its not like it costs anything to ship itunes over to Aus!

Bazza wrote: Although its not a lie, I very pissed off he changed the name of Foundation Day it is total bullshir,

Bazza if it lloks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it is a duck. Don't forget that with Costello and Howard there were core and non-core promises. With Barnett it is a bit like Hans Christian Andersen's tale of "The Emperor's New Clothes". When Barnett breaks a promise he didn't really break it because ACCORDING TO HIM he never made it in the first place.

Changing the name of a holiday which is celebrated on the same day as Foundation Day does not change the reason for the holiday and hence it is the SAME HOLIDAY. Barnett and trugh and logic were and are still never close mates.

I don't remember the plan to change to name of the holiday being raised as an issue before the election. Had it been I would of been strongly against it.

It was purely a unilateral decision to change the name which I was very pissed off about.

It completly removes any reference to our founding fathers from the day marking the occasion which is disgusting.

Now they are remanufacturing the day as some sort of bullshit ethnic diversity celebration day...it is NOT about that ..its about marking the guts and determination of out pioneering families who went through tough times to build what we had today...they are being erased from history which is BS.

Also I am not really impressed with the solar panel thing, I dont have solar panels but its sounds somewhat unethical to change the price now.

Devonleigh wrote: 3 Points.
1. Solar panels and wind generators are the most inefficient way to produce power when you incorporate the amount of energy that was and will be used to MAKE, INSTALL AND MAINTAIN them. Or if you’re a greenie they produce more co2 emissions in production and installation than they save.
2. The majority of solar panels installed have a very poor conversion rate.
3. What we pay for them in Australia is a bloody rip-off.
So all up they’re bad science and not as good for the environment as we are led to believe by the pinko greenies, we’ll never get the quoted energy conversions plus we’re ripped off in our initial costings by the manufacturers and installers every time there is a rebate applied.
Go figure.
See chart.

There was an excellent article on this very issue in weekend press.

in particular about how the greeen energy systems in europe are collapsing..

they have built, solar generators and wind farms, however over the past decade they have been totally inefficient and contrary to common beleif only existant under tax payers subsisdies, as european economies collapse the subsidies have been cut off. Spanish Solar farms are closing down and German Wind farms are going the same way...

Bazza, could you throw us back which paper the article was in?
or possibly scan and put on here?

Yolo, did not know that about the Prius. Now I can give real stick to my brother who drives one.