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Domestic Violence and the WAFL/AFL 2 months 1 week ago #201271

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If you start sacking an individual for DV, then you must do the same for all violence against any individual, man or woman otherwise you devalue the assault against another bloke. I agree, I personally think violence against a female is abhorrent and cowardly, like the coward punch issue that has caused so much trouble in our community that almost always involves young men, so it's important that the WAFC look at this with clear eyes and don't get swayed by media pressure and pressure from certain self interest groups to make a knee jerk decision.

Second chances? yes in most cases I would agree, if the individual shows genuine remorse and is committed to rehabilitation. But do it twice and you are banned for life.

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Interesting piece in the Worst today which will elicit a range of responses that will perhaps polarise the Oz footy community.

O'Donoghue has put forward the argument that if guilty of domestic violence or maybe just violence against women then that is it no career at the highest or second tier.

A crime is a crime no matter what it is but this suggests that this issue is one that carries an attached penalty. Is that fair, is it just and will it have an impact on the football community not just players.

For me I agree with him unreservedly. If you are found guilty of an act of violence against a woman, that is it go and find a sport that tolerates thus type of behaviour. The community standards and expectations for all of us has changed and if you cannot meet that standard then bye bye.


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this starts at the family level and each and every parent should be forcing the prevention of this to their offspring at every opportunity regardless but unfortunately the bleeding obvious is problem in some cases and that bleeding obvious is passed on
if governments are responsible in eradicating this then the subject should be at education curriculum level at every single school

I've also wondered why the WP individual was sentenced being a lower level comp player yet the AFL level individual wasn't - after breaching a National quarantine as well

as for these two being given second chances , well it really is up to the relevant clubs or league administrations to decide upon - unless a national code is developed for all to adhere to of course


Southerner, Rudy didn't have the dollars that The "AFL" lad had to hire the very best Lawyer/Barrister/QC. Sadly in so many cases, it's money that buys better court outcomes.

That's rubbish SS. Taylor was a first year player would have been on 60 - 80k max and was suspended for 10 matches by Sydney so never played another game after the Covid hub breach. And Rudy I think already had a spent conviction from a previous DV charge and the Aboriginal Legal Service would have come to his aid.

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Domestic Violence and the WAFL/AFL 2 months 1 week ago #201273

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Rookie gets a base of $85k + $5k/game
First year player taken in the full draft is on a base of $105k + $5k/game.
I'm pretty sure Rudy wasn't on anything like that from his employer + Joondy, but yes, it was a second offence which makes a significant difference.

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On the ump’s analysis, as far as I can work out, you won’t be allowed to go to games even as a spectator if done for DV. I know let’s put them all on a boat and send them to...oops did that one like 200 years ago. I know why don’t we make all crims wear an orange traffic cone on their heads at all times. Yes that is solid forward thinking. Ostracise them, kick em when they’re down.

Go umps!!!

Geesh.

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Domestic Violence and the WAFL/AFL 1 month 3 weeks ago #201820

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Two things, one being the AFL's decision on Taylor which is a fairly stern penalty (but not undeserved in my opinion) and perhaps a kneejerk reaction to recent issues in the ACT, the second being the small article in the worst a week or so ago suggesting that the WAFC and WAFL will be looking at having specific sanctions for instances of DV.

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Domestic Violence and the WAFL/AFL 1 month 2 weeks ago #201838

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Two things, one being the AFL's decision on Taylor which is a fairly stern penalty (but not undeserved in my opinion) and perhaps a kneejerk reaction to recent issues in the ACT, the second being the small article in the worst a week or so ago suggesting that the WAFC and WAFL will be looking at having specific sanctions for instances of DV.

I heard the AFL have told Taylor he won’t be able to play WAFL until June after he has completed anger management courses. Does that mean if he wanted to start an apprenticeship he wouldn’t be allowed until to start until June for the same reasons? As usual it’s all about the look for the AFL and minority groups have the loudest voice.

What about Rudy Riddoch? Has the AFL intervened with his intention to play in the WAFL after being released from jail after a second domestic violence conviction? Or perhaps he already completed his anger management courses as part of his bail conditions? But if a player is still serving bail he definitely should not be allowed to play football at any level.

It should be noted the AFL has banned Taylor from entering the AFL mid season draft, that doesn't mean he can't play WAFL but as I said I heard he has been told he can't play WAFL until he has completed anger management courses.

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Domestic Violence and the WAFL/AFL 1 month 2 weeks ago #201863

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Two things, one being the AFL's decision on Taylor which is a fairly stern penalty (but not undeserved in my opinion) and perhaps a kneejerk reaction to recent issues in the ACT, the second being the small article in the worst a week or so ago suggesting that the WAFC and WAFL will be looking at having specific sanctions for instances of DV.

I heard the AFL have told Taylor he won’t be able to play WAFL until June after he has completed anger management courses. Does that mean if he wanted to start an apprenticeship he wouldn’t be allowed until to start until June for the same reasons? As usual it’s all about the look for the AFL and minority groups have the loudest voice.

What about Rudy Riddoch? Has the AFL intervened with his intention to play in the WAFL after being released from jail after a second domestic violence conviction? Or perhaps he already completed his anger management courses as part of his bail conditions? But if a player is still serving bail he definitely should not be allowed to play football at any level.

It should be noted the AFL has banned Taylor from entering the AFL mid season draft, that doesn't mean he can't play WAFL but as I said I heard he has been told he can't play WAFL until he has completed anger management courses.

The AFL should be told to stick their collective noses out.  

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Domestic Violence and the WAFL/AFL 1 month 2 weeks ago #201866

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I would have thought that having a job including football would be a crucial element to completing anger management courses

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Domestic Violence and the WAFL/AFL 1 month 2 weeks ago #201871

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I'm still trying to figure out why they're singling out DV. I my opinion someone convicted of any violent crime should come under the microscope.
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Two things, one being the AFL's decision on Taylor which is a fairly stern penalty (but not undeserved in my opinion) and perhaps a kneejerk reaction to recent issues in the ACT, the second being the small article in the worst a week or so ago suggesting that the WAFC and WAFL will be looking at having specific sanctions for instances of DV.

I heard the AFL have told Taylor he won’t be able to play WAFL until June after he has completed anger management courses. Does that mean if he wanted to start an apprenticeship he wouldn’t be allowed until to start until June for the same reasons? As usual it’s all about the look for the AFL and minority groups have the loudest voice.

What about Rudy Riddoch? Has the AFL intervened with his intention to play in the WAFL after being released from jail after a second domestic violence conviction? Or perhaps he already completed his anger management courses as part of his bail conditions? But if a player is still serving bail he definitely should not be allowed to play football at any level.

It should be noted the AFL has banned Taylor from entering the AFL mid season draft, that doesn't mean he can't play WAFL but as I said I heard he has been told he can't play WAFL until he has completed anger management courses.

The AFL should be told to stick their collective noses out.  


that's what I was thinking straight up as well - looks like he has a nomination in for the shit league draft in the background mate

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