Chopper wrote: All the talk (especially from some of the Swans supporters) on local players and development has lead me to make a team up of Subi local players who played league footy in 2015. Subi actually do develop and give their local players a crack at league footy. Although Subi have struggled in colts footy again this year they had half a dozen good prospects who will be regular league players in years to come. Subis colts were also one of the youngest in the comp. Subi have also regularly played colts players in ressies and colts in league regularly over the years if they are good enough. In recent years colts that I can recall to have played league are Clark this year J Deluca last year and before that Woods,Chris Deluca. There were probably more recently? Of this list of league locals this year I would estimate over 90% have come through our colts program. I have put in brackets the number of league games they played in 2015 and put a # on players who had injuries which limited their games in league and ressies. Starting from the forward pocket -
Garcia (6) # Halligan (15) Deluca (14) #
Waters (10) # Wheeler (21). Wood (17)
Hoskins (. Moore (10). Blech (6)
Le Fanu (18). Stevenson ( # Worthington (11) #
Kennedy (17). Rumble (17). Featherstonhaugh (10) #
Ruck - Madut (13) # Horsley (13) # Phelan (21)
Interchange From - Jackson (7) Bestry (4) Bryan (4) Elliott (3) Norriss (3) Clark (2)
So not as bad as some may have thought and I might add not a bad side either. The WAFL may have to look at an equalisation policy such as the AuFL some time down the track but as the above team shows Subi play locals as well as their many recruits. They have money & hence an advantage - I'm not that nieve to say we don't. I would imagine any club would do the same if they were in Subis financial position? Schofield had many great players at his disposal so he had an easier job many would say but the systems he had the players adopting was very professional and with his colts and development background he does value highly the club development line and isn't afraid to promote and help players to the next level.
I would appreciate if all the other supporters could put up their team of locals only remembering that they must have played league footy in 2015 and I would appreciate if you could put in their league games tally for 2015.
Subi not only won in 2015 because of their vast imports but the development and strength of the depth in local talent. If Subi secure Cockie, Dennis - Lane and Broughton for the 2016 season then that will be 3 more quality locals to add to the above team.
I actually think that Subis all local WAFL team would stack up very very well against most if not all competitors.
This local player thing doesn't exist in most teams or competitions Australia wide except for probably most junior footy ? If it continues as a problem maybe the answer would be that as well as a points system a rule is introduced where by say for example 15 local players must play in the league team each week ??? Not sure if that would work or what would be achieved but only a thought.
Interesting to see your sides teams and any thoughts ? I'm not trying to be at tosser here but create a genuine debate and interest so I'm not looking for smart arse responses as I'm not trying to be smart either.
Ok with Freezes angle I'd put Hampson in our team on a forward flank move Wood to a forward pocket and Garcia to the bench. Now that's as good a all local forward line as I think you'd get for 2015 and I reckon our backs would be as good as going around as well ??? Looking at the local Subi players all except 6 have progressed through our development and colts systems. Only Hampson at 21yo and Stevenson 21yo both from local ammos I think when they came to Subi. Wortho and Horsley from Kal - Wortho as a 19yo after 3 years of senior footy at Boulder came to Subi and played league 1st up. Horsley as a 20yo game down after winning the Goldfields Mitchell Medal. He was a top cricketer as a 16yo and played state hockey. Phelan played league as a 20yo and don't know who he played for but from Our junior zone??? Wheeler came up from Esperance way - Condinup I think as a 23yo and looked good immediately.
So I am happy with all this info that Subi do produce local talent for WAFL footy and feel our local players are as good as any. The Swannies bullshit doesn't stand up. On the separate issue of spending on recruits and producing AFL talent you are correct. But Subi juggle recruits and locals pretty well hence their success.
If the recruits issue stays as it is then the rules must be changed to make it more even.
I'd still like to see a all local team from the other WAFL clubs but it doesn't look like anyone's interested enough or can be stuffed ???