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Subi v WCER 2 years 4 months ago #221273

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Was a funny old day. Shark Park in reasonable nick at least. Kitch fighting Nelson probably the highlight.  Playing west coast is pretty wierd. Plenty of subi people in the Eagle's camp. Horse, nikoski and Tim Gepp. It was more like a training run than a game a times. 

Giro our best perhaps.  savigni and Henderson going well. The younger hickmont covered the ground nicely.  Gus added a bit up front. 

I thought we would have lost to any other team, except perhaps Perth.  Greg Clarke I thought was best on ground in the second half. 

Putty did a collar bone, I think. 

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Subi v WCER 2 years 4 months ago #221275

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Agree JL. There was a fair bit of niggle which was a bit strange considering the lowly positions of both clubs on the ladder. I think Clinch must have done something to Nelson very early on as there was some pushing and shoving before Nelson came off and changed his jumper. Then Kitch got into a running battle with Nelson who by then was the angriest man of the planet.

Anyway, I'll take any win these days. I thought our backs did a good job overall which only sees Heal, Stainsby and Rohde down there from last years GF team. Savigne, Henderson are developing nicely and I thought our transition from back to forward was pretty good for most of the game. I also noticed they're playing Harris as a defender which I'm not sure is a good move as it seems like we're robbing Peter to pay Paul given he's been a driving force in the midfield up until now and we're a bit thin through the middle.

Giro was outstanding again, Max flashed in, Kitch good, the Hickmott's continue to grow but I did notice we dropped off a bit after losing Putt to an AC joint. Sokol provided a target and Matera an opportunist. For next year we need a ruck and probably another key forward. Where they're going to come from is anyone's guess but if we're going to go back up to the top of the shit heap then we'll have to recruit as DG said earlier.

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Subi v WCER 2 years 4 months ago #221276

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Nice summary BC. I vote we push our zone as far as it will go. Keep recruiting to a minimum. See how far we can go. 

Im prepared to give up after 1 year and go with Dg's plan. 

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Subi v WCER 2 years 4 months ago #221277

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Good first half particularly the 2nd qtr where we dominated, but losing Putt was a turning point, he was giving our mids a fair share of the footy and also had a physical presence, once he went off, the game turned around and their big contingent of Afl players, particularly Clark took over. Just as well we had that big 1/2 time lead as our second half was a shocker. Dela has a broken finger/hand so not sure he'll be back, so we don't have a ruckman that can at least compete at league level, if Putt's done a collar bone he's gone for the season, South is still way to lightly framed to compete and Matthews is a work in progress, so that leaves Eaton as an option if Dela cant come back, he has been starved of opportunities, has a huge leap and a strong body so at least can compete at league level.
DG mentioned we need a heap of recruits to fill the gaps. Mayo will be the key forward we need if his knees can hold up, we will need a key back as Locks wont be back until the 2nd half of next year, if at all. Another mid of Giro's quality would be nice and of course a quality ruckman from the VFL or SANFL to mentor the young rucks who are still a few years off being WAFL ready, if the 2 big EF Rucks dont carry on at AFL, I cant see all three getting regular runs at the Sharks with Goddard doing such a good job, so maybe one of them might be looking elsewhere. Morgan was good with 21 disposals, Snadden is starting to put together some decent games, Henderson and Savigni are good prospects down back, but we really need 1 or 2 good mids, a key back and a ruckman or we will be holidaying in September for a few years to come.

I assume next weeks game v the Ferals will also be relocated. Cant see us getting over EP without a ruckman, maybe a chance v Perth but thats it for the season I think.

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Subi v WCER 2 years 4 months ago #221280

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SS, BC, DG, what's your feeling about Golding, Vanirsen, Patterson? Will they become good or very good wafl mids in the next few years. Do we need to recruit beyond them?

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JL. I think all 3 are worth persevering with given their age. Golding is the oldest of the trio at 21 so there's plenty of upside given the opportunity. I remember Chris Phelan struggled when he first started in the middle and plenty were calling for him to be dropped including me and we know how he grew into becoming a very good player. It could be worthwhile playing one or two of the three as a small forward or on a wing initially so they're not thrown into the midfield deep end but there's plenty to work with imo.

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Agree BC, but I think we should also chase another Giro type pacy mid given Kitch and marsh are in their 30's, plus all the guys mentioned aren't super pacy. I also think Ash is a player who should be looked at, the games he played on the wing I thought were pretty good. They played Harris off half back a bit yesterday and I think that has some merit, he has pace and good disposal and can break the lines. If we can get everyone back on the paddock consistently plus a couple of good recruits to fill the key back and ruck, we will be at least challenging for a place in the 5.

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Subi v WCER 2 years 4 months ago #221295

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JL those young guys need to be built up slowly and train and play along side lots of classy mature players. For example in boxing if you train and spar with classy fighters that’s what you will become. If you train and spar with mediocre, well that’s what you will be. Of course there are always exceptions, but those are the ones who get snapped up by the afl clubs.
SS I wouldn’t be pinning our hopes on Mayo, if he does recover he needs to be eased back after the horror run he has been through. He needs to be our 4th or 5th best forward and get the oppositions 4th or 5th best defender
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We need a real coach with clout. Someone like a Germo or a Schoey. enough of pissing about with a cheap option ex umpire strategy type of guy
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Then we should be chasing Horse!!

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