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What has happened to this beautiful place many of us have called home since birth? Is it just me or has violence increased at an alarming rate over the last few years? It seems to be getting worse by the day. Senseless bashings and blokes murdering their wives, which seems to be a pattern among Indian immigrants.

Here is just a snapshot of violence on Perth Now today.

www.perthnow.com.au/news/wa/family-left-...rough-ng-b881099970z

www.perthnow.com.au/news/crime/man-stabb...ttack-ng-b881099930z

www.perthnow.com.au/news/perth/driver-pu...burbs-ng-b881100223z

Good topic DD. It certainly is a sign of the times which I personally put down to a breakdown of the family structure. As a kid growing up my parents made me very aware of their expectations, values and what was acceptable behaviour and what wasn't. I'm not sure that is the case these days across the community. Mind you, if Guiliani can clean up New York years ago with a zero tolerance policy, I think the same can be achieved here as well but it's going to take buy in from the Police, pollies, courts, family groups and the community at large including the vocal minority.

Make up your own mind - the stats are all there:

www.police.wa.gov.au/Crime/CrimeStatistics#/

Are there any race based stats??

UNKA2 wrote: Are there any race based stats??

I wouldn't want to blame the violence on race that would let a lot of Australians that are born and bred but I'd love to know what percentage of those guilty of the violence actually live here or are blow ins?.. But my comment on wives being victims of their husband resulting in being murdered I sense a pattern there. These people come here from different cultural backgrounds where it is seen as acceptable to be violent to women.

Does our immigration department acknowledge this and if they do what do they do to address and educate or even decline applications to migrate here. How hard do they vet applications background? Recent murders I am referring to are the Sri Lankan woman allegedly killed by her husband after emigrating here in 2016. She was a popular phys Ed teacher. They lived in Westminster.

Another victim was a middle eastern woman bashed to death in her own home in Carlisle and buried in the backyard near where her kids played. Going by her husband's name he appeared to be of Indian background. It is just unacceptable. Hopefully these men will be deported and let then rot in their prisons back home, or maybe their government will let them off?

DD wrote:

UNKA2 wrote: Are there any race based stats??

I wouldn't want to blame the violence on race that would let a lot of Australians that are born and bred but I'd love to know what percentage of those guilty of the violence actually live here or are blow ins?.. But my comment on wives being victims of their husband resulting in being murdered I sense a pattern there. These people come here from different cultural backgrounds where it is seen as acceptable to be violent to women.

Does our immigration department acknowledge this and if they do what do they do to address and educate or even decline applications to migrate here. How hard do they vet applications background? Recent murders I am referring to are the Sri Lankan woman allegedly killed by her husband after emigrating here in 2016. She was a popular phys Ed teacher. They lived in Westminster.

Another victim was a middle eastern woman bashed to death in her own home in Carlisle and buried in the backyard near where her kids played. Going by her husband's name he appeared to be of Indian background. It is just unacceptable. Hopefully these men will be deported and let then rot in their prisons back home, or maybe their government will let them off?

I think % wise people born overseas would be far far lower, in violence than some other races here.
I think we need to look in our own backyard first

You only need to look at the level of violence that happens in schools amongst the children and directed at teachers.

yep when I was at school firstly at Belmont primary and then Doubleview there were fights but it was over in a matter of moments and usually no harm done but it seems now that it is very much a case of bullying spilling over into physical harm and more often than not against the more at risk.

I can always recall the odd barney at the Shent's, the Nookie or White Sands but it was never a coward punch from behind and the bouncers bounced you good and hard.

As for he racial motivated comments you need to go back and look through the past to see the incidence of violence against women in each of our migration/refugee influxes it really is no different to when it was a european based migration, then an asian one and now what we have now. It is more prevelant but with a bigger population the numbers grow but does the % grow.

I was bought up in a pretty violent household and so were some of my peers I learnt that violence is not a way forward but some of my peers took on the behaviour and now some of the offspring have as well.

It is huge issue and one that needs some focus right from the home through education (teachers need to be protected) and then through the courts.

As an addendum I wonder if anyone has the courage to raise the elephant in the room, I won't for fear of being pilloried!

I'm not sure what you're thinking of when you mention elephant in the room. If it's the over-representation of Aboriginals in our courts and prison system considering they make up less that 3% of the population but 30% of those incarcerated then sweeping it under the carpet isn't helping anyone. As I've said before on here Aboriginal Australians receive $6 billion a year in services and assistance over and above what everyone else gets...so I'm not sure what else can be done as throwing money at the problem clearly isn't working. Maybe it's time indigenous leaders in our community started taking responsibility for what's happening to their people and stop blaming everyone else including events of 240 years ago. As a nation, how are we going to stop Aboriginal youth roaming the streets of Northbridge after dark looking for trouble or help little kids in Roebourne from systemic abuse by their own or women in outback communities being the victims of domestic violence? Congrats to Kerry-Anne Kennelly for having the guts to ask similar questions...it's time someone put the onus back on those who are the most vocal critics of non-indigenous Australia.

BC wrote: I'm not sure what you're thinking of when you mention elephant in the room. If it's the over-representation of Aboriginals in our courts and prison system considering they make up less that 3% of the population but 30% of those incarcerated then sweeping it under the carpet isn't helping anyone. As I've said before on here Aboriginal Australians receive $6 billion a year in services and assistance over and above what everyone else gets...so I'm not sure what else can be done as throwing money at the problem clearly isn't working. Maybe it's time indigenous leaders in our community started taking responsibility for what's happening to their people and stop blaming everyone else including events of 240 years ago. As a nation, how are we going to stop Aboriginal youth roaming the streets of Northbridge after dark looking for trouble or help little kids in Roebourne from systemic abuse by their own or women in outback communities being the victims of domestic violence? Congrats to Kerry-Anne Kennelly for having the guts to ask similar questions...it's time someone put the onus back on those who are the most vocal critics of non-indigenous Australia.

Whilst not the intention of this topic it is still relevant. I was talking to a woman recently who lives in the Pilbara and she told me a story about a young Aboriginal girl who was forced to quit her job at the local supermarket because she couldn't take anymore of the abuse. Who do you think were abusing her? White folk? No, she was targeted by her own who were attacking her for getting a job.

Until there is a bipartisan effort to get tough on aboriginal unemployment nothing will change. And the likes of Sarah Hanson - Young need to be seen for what they are, parasites that feed off being sympathetic to those who abuse the system the rest of us have to abide by.

Since we never see an Aboriginal working at Bunnings, Coles, Woolworths, Shell, BP, Puma, Caltex etc etc..... and we don't hear about these mega employers being sued for racial discrimination, we CAN assume aboriginal people don't want to work. In other words they think they are ENTITLED.

DD wrote:

BC wrote: I'm not sure what you're thinking of when you mention elephant in the room. If it's the over-representation of Aboriginals in our courts and prison system considering they make up less that 3% of the population but 30% of those incarcerated then sweeping it under the carpet isn't helping anyone. As I've said before on here Aboriginal Australians receive $6 billion a year in services and assistance over and above what everyone else gets...so I'm not sure what else can be done as throwing money at the problem clearly isn't working. Maybe it's time indigenous leaders in our community started taking responsibility for what's happening to their people and stop blaming everyone else including events of 240 years ago. As a nation, how are we going to stop Aboriginal youth roaming the streets of Northbridge after dark looking for trouble or help little kids in Roebourne from systemic abuse by their own or women in outback communities being the victims of domestic violence? Congrats to Kerry-Anne Kennelly for having the guts to ask similar questions...it's time someone put the onus back on those who are the most vocal critics of non-indigenous Australia.

Whilst not the intention of this topic it is still relevant. I was talking to a woman recently who lives in the Pilbara and she told me a story about a young Aboriginal girl who was forced to quit her job at the local supermarket because she couldn't take anymore of the abuse. Who do you think were abusing her? White folk? No, she was targeted by her own who were attacking her for getting a job.

Until there is a bipartisan effort to get tough on aboriginal unemployment nothing will change. And the likes of Sarah Hanson - Young need to be seen for what they are, parasites that feed off being sympathetic to those who abuse the system the rest of us have to abide by.

Since we never see an Aboriginal working at Bunnings, Coles, Woolworths, Shell, BP, Puma, Caltex etc etc..... and we don't hear about these mega employers being sued for racial discrimination, we CAN assume aboriginal people don't want to work. In other words they think they are ENTITLED.

2 things.
1) its ironic that quite often dark skinned is NOT mentioned in crime. ( im sure they are only allowed to mention dark skinned every now and then)
2) Amazingly when photos are shown, the skin appears lighter ( photoshop??) making it harder to distinguish....... sometimes though the sir-names are a give-away.

Yup call me cynical , but im confident the PC lefties demand this