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Time For a Flag wrote:

BC wrote:

I think you're wasting your time TT. Trump has had 4 years to produce credible evidence the previous election was rigged in numerous court cases and challenges, and not a scintilla of fact has surfaced. A lot of conjecture, posturing and finger pointing but nothing concrete.

Trump continues to spread lies, Tucker Carlson pulls together a lot of crap which amounts to nothing but at days end, Biden was the 46th President who beat Trump at the polls and that's a fact.

If fraud was there, it would have been laid bare by now given the amount spent on court challenges by Trumpy and his cronies.

BC. Don’t undo your life’s work due to TDS. I worry you may well have it. You are a level headed man with a great track record. Importantly don’t be embarrassed by your mistake. We all make them. Stay strong. Look to independent media. 

Sage advice TFaF.  I'll take it onboard for a nano-second then move on.   The last time Trumpy was in the WH, the sun still came up, I got paid on the 15th of every month and Perth FC continued to get flogged so not a lot changed.    

Tiger Tales wrote:

Time For a Flag wrote:

Tiger Tales wrote:

Time For a Flag wrote:

Bazza wrote:

DD wrote:

Sore loser Harris won't turn up to her watch party. Lol

No stolen election this time DD funny that..

Talking Sore Losers - lets compare the hand over of power this time to when Trump lost...

Democrat candidates vote tally from 2004 -2024 below 

2004 Kerry 59 million votes
2008 Obama 69.5 million votes
2012 Obama 65.9 million votes
2016 Clinton 65.9 million votes
2020 Biden 81.3 million votes
2024 Harris 66.4 million votes

Remembering that the results were called on the day in all but 2020.
Remembering that we didn't see voting count sites being boarded up and 
Seeing the Democrat candidate not getting 15 million more votes than the average (like Biden did in 2020) 

I would say no - there wasn't a stolen election this time Bazza. 






 

TFAF should we also be suspicious of Trumps votes in 2020 and 2024 given that they are 10-14m higher than previous Republican candidates...2020 saw a significant increase in voting for both candidates, the Dems fell back to a 'normal' level at this election but Trumps remain 10m+ higher than when he beat Clinton in 2016 and votes obtained by all previous Republican candidates.

2004      Kerry    59m votes        Bush      62m votes                        
2008      Obama 69.5m votes     McCain  59.9m votes
2012      Obama 65.9m votes     Romney 60.9 votes
2016      Clinton  65.9m votes     Trump    62.9m votes
2020      Biden   81.3m votes    Trump    74.2m votes
2024      Harris    67.9m votes     Trump    72.6m votes

What you can see clearly from this Tiger is that Trump only got 1.6 million less votes this time around to the Democrat candidate getting 13.4 million less. 

You are just showing how popular Trump was in 2020 and how big the steal was. 

I will have to explain further later if you can't follow. Will be very easy. But have time constraints now.




 

Interesting take on it TFAF, but given you’re a Trump supporter it only demonstrates confirmation bias. 

Whilst you think it’s as simple as it was stolen in 2020 there’s far more plausible reasons than an unproven conspiracy theory. 

Either way Trumps done in 4 and a bit years time, never to be President again and Harris won’t get the backing of the Democrat faithful to run at the next election. 



 

As promised further explanation about the Republican numbers.

So voting from 2004 up to 2016 was around 65m Democrat to 61m Republican.

Then in 2020 Trumps popularity soars 13.3m.This explainable for five reasons.

One his first term was good to very good and everyone that voted for him the first time did so again.

Two the average Yank was sick and tired of being gas lit and lied to by the Democrats and talked down to by the rich and famous.

Thirdly Trump is an entertainer. There is no question about this. He did rally after rally and people loved it. Look at him walk into a Football stadium or an MMA arena. After the dourness of McCain and the unlikability of Romney and the sick and tiredness of the Bushes – Republicans just loved the freshness of Trumpy.

Fourth. People were moving on from main stream media from around 2019/20. They were getting their news from independent sources. These sources made it clear that (they) – (the deep state and the elites) were on a witch hunt against Trump. People hate and strongly hate unfairness. That I can tell you.

Finally and fifth. People saw how dismissed they were by the Democrats rolling out Joe Biden. He campaigned from the bunker and hardly at all. His dementia was evident and people were well and truly fed up to the absolute hilt with how they were being treated. It was appalling and quite frankly disgusting.

Anyway this and things like it saw him hit the 74m. He has held this number pretty much this year showing it was no fluke or cheat.

The Democrats on the other hand jumped 15.4m from 2016 to 2020 and fell away 13.4m this year. This fall off against them happened with basically the same team. Obama, Clinton, Joe, the VP Harris and the movie stars. I maintain they never received 81.3 legitimate votes. These were harvested and dumped at 2 in the morning while the shutters were up.

Those who watch the ABC and the Guardian won’t believe this – because they don’t want too. The rest of us have retained our ability to listen to our Hunches.

All the best

 

This election was lost when the democrats left sleepy Joe at the wheel and then replaced him with Kamala on the recommendation of Obama.

FFS is a lady with a surname of Clinton could not beet the Don then what chance did Mrs Harris have. Hilary is a lot smarter.

The Don will make decisions that have a direct impact on the USA and no one else will be considered. Hell, I even notice the interest rates in the USA went down yesterday on the back of the election and in Australia we have people saying we are worried about tariffs on China so we may have to put ours up.......

Like the Don from the Goodfellows movie he will have the whole world kissing his ring and he will love it

PH,  folk are  probably worried that Temu is no longer going to be cheap mate due to the big Kahuna.....folk certainly won't be kissing the big fella's ring for that.

Time For a Flag wrote:

Tiger Tales wrote:

Time For a Flag wrote:

Tiger Tales wrote:

TFAF should we also be suspicious of Trumps votes in 2020 and 2024 given that they are 10-14m higher than previous Republican candidates...2020 saw a significant increase in voting for both candidates, the Dems fell back to a 'normal' level at this election but Trumps remain 10m+ higher than when he beat Clinton in 2016 and votes obtained by all previous Republican candidates.

2004      Kerry    59m votes        Bush      62m votes                        
2008      Obama 69.5m votes     McCain  59.9m votes
2012      Obama 65.9m votes     Romney 60.9 votes
2016      Clinton  65.9m votes     Trump    62.9m votes
2020      Biden   81.3m votes    Trump    74.2m votes
2024      Harris    67.9m votes     Trump    72.6m votes

Interesting take on it TFAF, but given you’re a Trump supporter it only demonstrates confirmation bias. 

Whilst you think it’s as simple as it was stolen in 2020 there’s far more plausible reasons than an unproven conspiracy theory. 

Either way Trumps done in 4 and a bit years time, never to be President again and Harris won’t get the backing of the Democrat faithful to run at the next election. 




 

As promised further explanation about the Republican numbers.

So voting from 2004 up to 2016 was around 65m Democrat to 61m Republican.

Then in 2020 Trumps popularity soars 13.3m.This explainable for five reasons.

One his first term was good to very good and everyone that voted for him the first time did so again.

Two the average Yank was sick and tired of being gas lit and lied to by the Democrats and talked down to by the rich and famous.

Thirdly Trump is an entertainer. There is no question about this. He did rally after rally and people loved it. Look at him walk into a Football stadium or an MMA arena. After the dourness of McCain and the unlikability of Romney and the sick and tiredness of the Bushes – Republicans just loved the freshness of Trumpy.

Fourth. People were moving on from main stream media from around 2019/20. They were getting their news from independent sources. These sources made it clear that (they) – (the deep state and the elites) were on a witch hunt against Trump. People hate and strongly hate unfairness. That I can tell you.

Finally and fifth. People saw how dismissed they were by the Democrats rolling out Joe Biden. He campaigned from the bunker and hardly at all. His dementia was evident and people were well and truly fed up to the absolute hilt with how they were being treated. It was appalling and quite frankly disgusting.

Anyway this and things like it saw him hit the 74m. He has held this number pretty much this year showing it was no fluke or cheat.

The Democrats on the other hand jumped 15.4m from 2016 to 2020 and fell away 13.4m this year. This fall off against them happened with basically the same team. Obama, Clinton, Joe, the VP Harris and the movie stars. I maintain they never received 81.3 legitimate votes. These were harvested and dumped at 2 in the morning while the shutters were up.

Those who watch the ABC and the Guardian won’t believe this – because they don’t want too. The rest of us have retained our ability to listen to our Hunches.

All the best


 

Something to contemplate for you TFAF if you can take your blinkers off for a minute...but understand you probably won't as you are too far down the Trump rabbit hole to understand what's up, what's down or what is sideways.

Despite losing the popular vote Trump defeated Clinton, winning some key states, but America wasn't ready for a female President and certainly not Clinton. 

Trump's a polarising personality to say the least and his handling of covid particularly through the early phase was poor not to forget other several issues with his first Presidency include how unstable his staff and advisers were through his term. Biden provided a more stable option and Dems are far more likely to pre-vote, something that increased significantly due to Covid. These votes have always been counted after the in-person ballots have been totalled, which often sees the Dems gain ground. Also big cities are more likely to vote Dems again taking time to collate the larger number of votes. 

This year it was clear Biden wasn't a viable option and whilst the US wasn't ready for a female President with Clinton, its looks less ready for a female President with Jamaican and Indian heritage.

Looks like Trump can only beat women. 

I do find it perplexing that the Yanks can't find better candidates than Biden/Harris or Trump though.


 

Nothing you said here Tiger addresses Bidens 81million. It's 12.5 million more than Obama at his height mate.

20 - 25% more than any previous or since. As uncle Joe says "Come on Man" 

I will take 5 -7 million for the drop off during Covid in 2020. Not 14 million. Your big cities more likely to vote Dems and therefore take longer to count is a red herring and does nothing to explain the 14 million. 

 

Trump has appointed the first female chief of staff in US history Sue Wiles who has been his campaign manager.

www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2024/11...senate-live-updates/

Looks like the head of the Federal Reserve (Reserve Bank ) .Will be shown the door on the 6th of January
Along with the heads of the FBI + CIA.
And any other security agencys who conspired against Trump.And left the Bidens alone.+Protecting the swamp people.

Poor Kamala 😂

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