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When your reigning Fairest & Best (and winner 2 of the last 3 years) ups and leaves to another state that isnt even his home then that should have sparked alarm bells that all is not well in the purple camp and now whispers the Hill brothers want out, Tim Kelly's refusal to go to Freo despite being desperate to come home.....

Grump wrote: A recycled coach is a danger in itself, by recycled I mean one that has been let go, move on to another club for whatever reason or just sacked, Eade, Lyon or Walls are some that spring to mind. I cannot recall anyone of the recycled group doing all that well but not being a great follower of the AFL teams I could well be wrong.

If you look back at the last premierships even as far back as 2008 they have all been won by assistants who have been promoted from within or selected and surely that sends a note.

Lyon is a recycled coach and whilst there things he does well there are lots of things he doesn't do well and Fremantle as a club and business need to move him on! In my opinion and I must say I have nothing concrete to hang may hat on but I reckon at the outset of this season Bell was an influence and one that had a positive effect but of late Lyon seems to have reacted in his own way and that influence is being diluted .

This century is Matthews & Malthouse for 4 premierships which is 20%.

Leather Stops wrote:

Grump wrote: A recycled coach is a danger in itself, by recycled I mean one that has been let go, move on to another club for whatever reason or just sacked, Eade, Lyon or Walls are some that spring to mind. I cannot recall anyone of the recycled group doing all that well but not being a great follower of the AFL teams I could well be wrong.

If you look back at the last premierships even as far back as 2008 they have all been won by assistants who have been promoted from within or selected and surely that sends a note.

Lyon is a recycled coach and whilst there things he does well there are lots of things he doesn't do well and Fremantle as a club and business need to move him on! In my opinion and I must say I have nothing concrete to hang may hat on but I reckon at the outset of this season Bell was an influence and one that had a positive effect but of late Lyon seems to have reacted in his own way and that influence is being diluted .

This century is Matthews & Malthouse for 4 premierships which is 20%.

I would not have thought they were recycled, Malthouse was recruited to WCE , Collingwood and then Carlton, ok Matthews was!

I'm sick of hearing the players are behind Ross Lyon. If you believe in the bloke that much you shouldn't be giving up 35 point lead at home against the bottom team without it's best player, key forward goes out of the game 12 minutes into the game and lose another experienced player after half time, down to 2 rotations. Then a piss poor response after what is it called Ross, "A SHARP REVIEW "? WC lose Kennedy before the game and you are still non competitive? Show us your genius coaching skills and show us you are capable of producing an upset win against the Hawks in Tassie. Just being competitive doesn't cut it for me. I'm expecting a Carlton like performance.