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Freezin wrote:

Naagh not being entitled DD, just realistic.....in a dog eat dog competition, not sure any club is willingly going to hand another club any sort of advantage they have. 

 I can't see many clubs are going to be thrilled to hand over a zone, they have heavily  invested in and built from the ground up, with their own financial resources and manpower, to a club,  to simply walk in a reap the benefits from the off. But I wouldn't say no to Perth snaring Peel's zone as a starting point....does Peel even need a zone with an AFL club funding them?







 

You don’t get it mate. It’s not up to you or your club. If the WAFC makes the right call they can do what they please. The only question is to this point, why haven’t they been willing to do so?

Tiger Tales wrote:

DD, how many of the 11 recruits Perth have brought in over the last 2 seasons will still be at Perth in 2025? 
And just as importantly why have they left?  The club is financial so money isn't the issue, you have more points available than other clubs too...so what's the reason? 

Answer that and it will will answer why you struggle to attract and retain the available talent from within your district. They say success breeds success...nearly 50 years of mediocrity isn't helping Perth recruit and retain. 

Why would any club hand it's zones over to Perth who have a country zone on their doorstep and fail to work it well. What hope do you think Perth would have trying to service the Kimberley, Kalgoorlie, Albany or Esperance? 

Who cares about Colts and Ressies flags anyway, it's all about your League team winning a flag. Subiaco didn't get much through there zone for several years and most that did come through went on to AFL but recruited well and had excellent success. EP doesn't have a good metro zone but again have recruited well. Swans have recruited well too. 

If Claremont and EF have such strong zones then why aren't Perth topping up their squad with the overflowing talent once these players turn 19 and arent on the protected 40? seems most of the movement is from Perth not too Perth. I'm sure Cody Leggett is happy with his decision

Fuck iPad crashed. Start again. A few B graders not up to it. Lane, Howard and Shannon. Thompson’s girlfriend doesn’t want to come here and I heard he’s been carrying a groin all season and is taking a year off from playing. When he arrived last year he was coming off a pretty serious ankle injury. Chaplain told the club from the outset he could only play for one year. Going to Geelong to complete his agricultural studies and eventually return to the family farm. 

BC wrote:

Agree with your comments on zones DD. It's no coincidence Claremont colts have finished the home and away season in the top two eight of the last ten years whereas Perth has done it only twice over the same period but also finished bottom two on 5 occasions.

There could be any number of reasons for that particular anomaly but I'd start with zone allocation if I were the WAFC.

I noticed BC Claremont have a stack of players from Scarborough in their league and colts lists. How in the hell did they get Scarborough off you? As if they aren’t brimming with talent already.

DD wrote:

BC wrote:

Agree with your comments on zones DD. It's no coincidence Claremont colts have finished the home and away season in the top two eight of the last ten years whereas Perth has done it only twice over the same period but also finished bottom two on 5 occasions.

There could be any number of reasons for that particular anomaly but I'd start with zone allocation if I were the WAFC.

I noticed BC Claremont have a stack of players from Scarborough in their league and colts lists. How in the hell did they get Scarborough off you? As if they aren’t brimming with talent already.

It's based on where they live not which club they play at. Karrinyup where Scarborough FC is located is in the Subi Zone, along with north part of North Beach but Trigg, south end of North Beach and Scarbs are in the Claremont zone and have been for a while. We lost some suburbs further inland to Subi. Claremont had Hamersley back in the mid 90s but think thats now with Subi. Subi also picked up Greenwood from WP around the same time 

BC wrote:

Agree with your comments on zones DD. It's no coincidence Claremont colts have finished the home and away season in the top two eight of the last ten years whereas Perth has done it only twice over the same period but also finished bottom two on 5 occasions.

There could be any number of reasons for that particular anomaly but I'd start with zone allocation if I were the WAFC.

More to do with Socio Economics rather than zones BC, Claremont also has a lot of Aborginal players but they are far better at developing them and keeping them in the system than Perth, theres are variety of reason for that but no reason why Perth cannot replicate it.

 

DD wrote:

Freezin wrote:

Sadly BC, clubs aren't going to hand over their successful zones to help Perth, as Perth aren't going to hand over their financial success to help other clubs. Equality has two sides to it. Are Subi willing to hand over the Goldfields to Perth? I know EF handed over the North Midlands zone to Perth, now they would like Geraldton no doubt.


Perhaps a club like Peel , with the best of both worlds- money and zones should be looked at first then. Perth push into  EF, EF push into SF, SF push into Peel....Peel rely on Freo for their recruiting - best 18 yr olds around the state and country....plus they get access to senior players for free, which other WAFL clubs,  would cough up 10-12 pts  and pay 50K for eg Reidy, Brodie, Voss, Erasmus, Aish etc. But Peel are a protected species, so that won't happen.Cl have money and zones.....the best zones, how about they cough up something? 

On the flip side EP have just won the minor premiership, their zones aren't chocablock full of riches.....they have recruited quality and done their best with what local resources they have.....ditto SD.....have they received better zones, more cap and player points? Some clubs have zones, some have money, focus on the ones who have both first and work down from there I guess.

How fucking entitled are you? "Clubs aren't going to HAND over THEIR ZONES". Like you own them like it's your birthright. It's that kind of selfish attitude that starves the WAFL of a fair competition. So you just expect us to survive by relying on recruiting to be competitive when in fact despite recruiting about 11 players in the last two seasons we have still only managed to finish last and second last.

If the WAFC had any guts they would redistribute zones based on consistent levels of succes or lack of it in particular country zones. It is absolute madness that while Claremont enjoys the richest metro zone probably in the country they also enjoy the riches of a thriving country zone.

At the very least the WAFC should be saying we are going to try equalising the competition by giving the strongest country zone to the weakest WAFL club and that is clearly Perth. You all make that blatantly obvious on a regular basis.

Heard someone say on a 91.3 podcast East Fremantle have 12 former AFL players in their team. Wow, incredible and I'd say all but a couple would be home grown ex AFL players. Boekhurst and English being ex SD and Perth. Perth has only one I can think of being Mathew Taylor.

Well they actually do "own" them at the moment, and wont give them up without compensation. Why should they?

What's to get DD. Your perception  of the WAFC  doing right, is giving Perth a zone/s, that another club has probably developed from scratch, to a zone that is providing a steady supply of quality footballers. My perception is that why should the WAFC make my club EF give up a zone like Geraldton, one they have spent 50 years developing, to Perth to benefit from the off.

Get the WAFC to pressure Peel for their zones, like I said Freo fund Peel.....they recruit for Peel and pay the wages of those Freo players,  playing for Peel in the WAFL. We know they won't because Freo help fund the WAFC.

 

Freezin wrote:

What's to get DD. Your perception  of the WAFC  doing right, is giving Perth a zone/s, that another club has probably developed from scratch, to a zone that is providing a steady supply of quality footballers. My perception is that why should the WAFC make my club EF give up a zone like Geraldton, one they have spent 50 years developing, to Perth to benefit from the off.

Get the WAFC to pressure Peel for their zones, like I said Freo fund Peel.....they recruit for Peel and pay the wages of those Freo players,  playing for Peel in the WAFL. We know they won't because Freo help fund the WAFC.



 

Luv the way you say "we developed". So the Harry Taylors, Josh Kennedy's, Cripps x 2 etc.... wouldn't have emerged if Perth had your country zone? Good thing we "developed" Jaeger O'Meara in Dongara hey? Or did you geniuses "develop" him before we were handed Dongara?

Yeh I get it now freezin. The likes of you and a number of others like it the way it is. I get it.

Bazza wrote:

DD wrote:

Freezin wrote:

Sadly BC, clubs aren't going to hand over their successful zones to help Perth, as Perth aren't going to hand over their financial success to help other clubs. Equality has two sides to it. Are Subi willing to hand over the Goldfields to Perth? I know EF handed over the North Midlands zone to Perth, now they would like Geraldton no doubt.


Perhaps a club like Peel , with the best of both worlds- money and zones should be looked at first then. Perth push into  EF, EF push into SF, SF push into Peel....Peel rely on Freo for their recruiting - best 18 yr olds around the state and country....plus they get access to senior players for free, which other WAFL clubs,  would cough up 10-12 pts  and pay 50K for eg Reidy, Brodie, Voss, Erasmus, Aish etc. But Peel are a protected species, so that won't happen.Cl have money and zones.....the best zones, how about they cough up something? 

On the flip side EP have just won the minor premiership, their zones aren't chocablock full of riches.....they have recruited quality and done their best with what local resources they have.....ditto SD.....have they received better zones, more cap and player points? Some clubs have zones, some have money, focus on the ones who have both first and work down from there I guess.

How fucking entitled are you? "Clubs aren't going to HAND over THEIR ZONES". Like you own them like it's your birthright. It's that kind of selfish attitude that starves the WAFL of a fair competition. So you just expect us to survive by relying on recruiting to be competitive when in fact despite recruiting about 11 players in the last two seasons we have still only managed to finish last and second last.

If the WAFC had any guts they would redistribute zones based on consistent levels of succes or lack of it in particular country zones. It is absolute madness that while Claremont enjoys the richest metro zone probably in the country they also enjoy the riches of a thriving country zone.

At the very least the WAFC should be saying we are going to try equalising the competition by giving the strongest country zone to the weakest WAFL club and that is clearly Perth. You all make that blatantly obvious on a regular basis.

Heard someone say on a 91.3 podcast East Fremantle have 12 former AFL players in their team. Wow, incredible and I'd say all but a couple would be home grown ex AFL players. Boekhurst and English being ex SD and Perth. Perth has only one I can think of being Mathew Taylor.

Well they actually do "own" them at the moment, and wont give them up without compensation. Why should they?

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Employ quality junior talent managers, you recently lost a good one but prior to that your junior talent manager wasn't approachable, wouldn't listen and narrow minded. This destroys your chances of home grown talent coming through. So many good kids not given a chance because they come from a club playing in a division 2 or division 3. Invest time and effort into your zone and make it better.