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Tighe - two seasons 2012 - 2013 , from memory finished runner up F&B in one of those seasons. The team fininished in the bottom half of the ladder. Originally recruited to play as a Key defender or forward ending up in the ruck? Good competitor and servicaeable footballer but hardly a out of the box recruit. Our recruitment needs to be a bit more astute and selective. Apart from Cooky in the past 5 years it has been very ordinary in my opinion.
Agree our defence has improved this year but we still leak too many goals!. A general observation is that we are a football team including coaches in this , that still do not respect the oppositions strengths and do not pay enough attention to closing them down. Need to develop this area of our game more if we are going to progress in 2016.

Just a question for the SF boys.....over the last 4-5 years you guys haven't played league finals, yet have won a few reserves and colts trophies during this time....is that a worry for you guys that the development of these boys seem to be taking longer than expected?.....the depth and talent on paper appears to be at SF every year, do you think Curley will be able to fast track the development side of things faster/better than Hase could/did?.....I know the draft has taken some of your boys, but you have had a few return from the AFL in that time to over come that......be interested to see if the likes of Kersten, Shaw, Johnson and Main get delisted this year......the former two would be very damaging in the WAFL one would think?

Freez, my opinion on your questions,

Bitterly dissapointed that we have not been able to fast track the development of those players who have played in Colts and Reserves premierships in the past 5 years.
A number of factors have impacted upon that IMO.
We came off a terrific period of John Dimmer influence with two premierships in his reign as coach. IMO again and I know I will have a few SF posters disagree one of JD"s strength was his undoubted loyality to his experienced players and his reluctance to inject young players into his teams.
We also had a colts coach in 2012 , 2013 who was in my opinion to focussed on premierships and not on development. Haselby came in as coach in 2012 and immediatley like any new coach wanted to have short term sucess (premierships)and did not look at the importance of development of younger players,and did not have the capacity to challenge the ingrained development system that was allowed to establish at our club.
I think we all underestimate the step up in standard of competition from Colts to Reserves and then to League level at the WAFL , a number of those youngsters who were involved in those premierships at Colts and Reserves level have found the step up in level too hard and have moved on and are playing at lesser demanding levels. A number have just given up as a result of their AFL dreams not being acheieved and either not playing or playing with mates as generation Y seem to do these days.
I am really comfortable with Todd Curley's direction with the development of young players in our club he has blooded this year Dragovich , Panizza , Maskos , Strom , Bennell , Matera , Gundry , Ah Chee , Ah Sui all of which have played Colts in the previous two years and he has also bought in Branchi who was languishing in the reserves all of last year? I think he understands the importance of development of young players in your club and very happy with him. Selected targetted recruiting is required by our club to compliment what are our needs. The mentioned players that you name ie Shaw , Kersten if they are delisted are priorities for our club to get them back to their club of origin.

Freezin wrote: Just a question for the SF boys.....over the last 4-5 years you guys haven't played league finals, yet have won a few reserves and colts trophies during this time....is that a worry for you guys that the development of these boys seem to be taking longer than expected?.....the depth and talent on paper appears to be at SF every year, do you think Curley will be able to fast track the development side of things faster/better than Hase could/did?.....I know the draft has taken some of your boys, but you have had a few return from the AFL in that time to over come that......be interested to see if the likes of Kersten, Shaw, Johnson and Main get delisted this year......the former two would be very damaging in the WAFL one would think?

yes Freeze there was a time when this would translate into a model of success, I think of Claremont under Neesham and the generational power they had in all three grades, it equated into League Premierships and a period of club dominance.

On the flip side look at Perth, they had a run of success in minor grades, it all resulted in nothing at all league wise, quite the opposite infact total league failure.

Of course alignment was not an issue back then, local talent even though drafted stayed put if they ended up at budgies or shockers.

Factoring that in , Im seriously worried at the state of the club and the perth like trend that is developing year in year out, for mine its more than a slump its a dangerous hole.

Yes, a priority should be given to getting players back you mentioned, but the competition to nab players of that ilk is intense and cashed up clubs like Subi will be sniffing around.

Yes, a priority should be given to getting players back you mentioned, but the competition to nab players of that ilk is intense and cashed up clubs like Subi will be sniffing around.[/quote]

Surely Subiaco wouldn't be sniffing around those SF boys ..apparently they are well on their way to having 70% local boys at the club ...by the year 2050!!

Yeah well they'll pay top dollar for them and we'll go into the cap rubbish all over again and again and again mate hahaha but then again the commish will just bend the rules to accommodate so we'll just have to go for the cash I suppose geez

Oh and as far as I know only Duffield , AhChee Vandeleur & Main are in the gun as far as delistments go in reference to ex-South boys

Southerner wrote: Yeah well they'll pay top dollar for them and we'll go into the cap rubbish all over again and again and again mate hahaha but then again the commish will just bend the rules to accommodate so we'll just have to go for the cash I suppose geez

When you have the cash and the admin staff to administer it and work things, ( check out their website and the amount of staff they have ) you can find all sorts of ways to get around minor speed humps like caps.

Southerner wrote: Oh and as far as I know only Duffield , AhChee Vandeleur & Main are in the gun as far as delistments go in reference to ex-South boys

Duffield strikes me as a bit of a mercenary - he could end up anywhere for the $, our footy department is trying to find savings not the other way around.

AhChee has signed a new contract with Port...

Well Bazza from the tone of your conversation we may as well close the shop door and give up.

Get some quality recruits that are quality not average footballers at WAFL level I mean blokes that have real impact.
A coach that teaches a good system and method to a hungry and eager group and you have half a chance against any oppo.
Things can change very quickly.