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Ti Em wrote:

Peter North wrote: At the end if the day in any sport defence wins tiltles, premierships etc, and that's a fact.

The evidence does suggest that - there are exceptions but mostly you are right about that.

TBH though if you were a Crows supporter you'd be bitterly disappointed with that effort.

Is there a football competition anywhere in Australia that is not compromised or contrived?
We all know the joke that is the WAFL competition at the moment where only 3 sides can realistically win the flag every year (Subiaco vs Alignment side) but the supposed national comp is really no better.
Take for example this year where Adelaide finish on top win both of their minor finals comfortably to reach the GF and then have to travel to Melbourne to front up to the 4th placed team after the H&A season on their own home ground!
That now makes it 10 of the last 11 Premierships have been won by Victorian sides with 6 coming against Interstate sides and 5 of those Interstate Grand Finalists being the higher ranked side having to play away to a lower ranked opponent on their very own home ground.
The Vics must absolutely piss themselves that they have total domination and direction of Australian Rules Football and their infiltration into the WAFL will end up with a similar result here if not already!

BH there is a problem with Don Pikes coaching.Hes very slow to change game plan and strategy when things are going bad.Hardwick totally out coached him ysrda.

Two years running now the umps have been sucked into fairy tail endings, not as bad as lastnyear but another blatantly favoured umpiring display , Betts not getting a free kick summed it all up, 19 to 24 free kick count in favour of Richmond.
Anyway wouldnt saved crows in the end, I think Pyke stuffed up , he had shut down Martin early part of the game , but then couldnt counter the move, pretty poor stuff from Crows , they looked the goods early but went Awol in the 3rd.

Another drought nroken, must be Melbournes OR St Kildas turn next year....

Bazza wrote: Two years running now the umps have been sucked into fairy tail endings, not as bad as lastnyear but another blatantly favoured umpiring display , Betts not getting a free kick summed it all up, 19 to 24 free kick count in favour of Richmond.
Anyway wouldnt saved crows in the end, I think Pyke stuffed up , he had shut down Martin early part of the game , but then couldnt counter the move, pretty poor stuff from Crows , they looked the goods early but went Awol in the 3rd.

Another drought nroken, must be Melbournes OR St Kildas turn next year....

Baz did you think Dusty was the standout for the Norm Smith.Richmonds defenders killed the Crows fwds.I though Houli and Rance had fantastic games.

One of the highlights of the 1st quarter was a field umpire explaining to an Adelaide player his decision was based on commonsense! 1st time for everything I suppose. Consistency is usually a problem and the Tigers were given plenty of leeway by the umpires.

I think ruckman Jacobs played into the Richmond high pressure tactics. He had double the hitouts - but would just tap it straight down to a teammate who would of course be set upon. Away from Richmond's end he could of tryed thumping the ball long towards his end and try to open things up.

BH the 4th placed team won their minor finals comfortably as well and the GF too.....fark everyone knows the drill....GF day is at the MCG...the atmosphere looked fantastic 100 000 plus people....of those 10 Victorian premierships...3 were won by a fantastic Hawks team, a couple by a great Geelong team....really don't see what the problem is... in the late nineties Adelaide went back to back....Brisbane won 3 on the trot, Port won one, so did WCE and Sydney.....all non Vic clubs and funny enough all won at the MCG and all in the space of a decade too...no doubt the AFL were responsible for that....it happens!

Freezin wrote: BH the 4th placed team won their minor finals comfortably as well and the GF too.....fark everyone knows the drill....GF day is at the MCG...the atmosphere looked fantastic 100 000 plus people....of those 10 Victorian premierships...3 were won by a fantastic Hawks team, a couple by a great Geelong team....really don't see what the problem is... in the late nineties Adelaide went back to back....Brisbane won 3 on the trot, Port won one, so did WCE and Sydney.....all non Vic clubs and funny enough all won at the MCG and all in the space of a decade too...no doubt the AFL were responsible for that....it happens!

And you remember the outcry by the Vics about that lead by serial whingers McGuire, Elliott et al lead to calls for an enquiry on Vic footy and low and behold 10 of the last 11 all won by Vic sides!

Freezin wrote: BH the 4th placed team won their minor finals comfortably as well and the GF too.....fark everyone knows the drill....GF day is at the MCG...the atmosphere looked fantastic 100 000 plus people....of those 10 Victorian premierships...3 were won by a fantastic Hawks team, a couple by a great Geelong team....really don't see what the problem is... in the late nineties Adelaide went back to back....Brisbane won 3 on the trot, Port won one, so did WCE and Sydney.....all non Vic clubs and funny enough all won at the MCG and all in the space of a decade too...no doubt the AFL were responsible for that....it happens!

Swans have won 2,

gtrxuone wrote:

Bazza wrote: Two years running now the umps have been sucked into fairy tail endings, not as bad as lastnyear but another blatantly favoured umpiring display , Betts not getting a free kick summed it all up, 19 to 24 free kick count in favour of Richmond.
Anyway wouldnt saved crows in the end, I think Pyke stuffed up , he had shut down Martin early part of the game , but then couldnt counter the move, pretty poor stuff from Crows , they looked the goods early but went

Another drought nroken, must be Melbournes OR St Kildas turn next year....

Baz did you think Dusty was the standout for the Norm Smith.Richmonds defenders killed the Crows fwds.I though Houli and Rance had fantastic games.

Yep, I reckon he was a worthy winner. 2nd half was amongst it and created heaps.