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Dirty Weekender wrote:

Peter North wrote: Yeah 34 players couldn't say no or question the program and they reckon they were duped, either they were complicit or brain dead.

Peter, you are pretty up to date with this whole saga. Have you any idea why Slattery has copped the ban if he did not particpate in the injection program as reported? He is one of the 34.

The players were involved as a group at the tribunal not indivdually also the fact he couldn't tell the tribunal what he was injected with , its in the CAS findings, maybe they should of got better lawyers.

Peter North wrote:

Dirty Weekender wrote:

Peter North wrote: Yeah 34 players couldn't say no or question the program and they reckon they were duped, either they were complicit or brain dead.

Peter, you are pretty up to date with this whole saga. Have you any idea why Slattery has copped the ban if he did not particpate in the injection program as reported? He is one of the 34.

The players were involved as a group at the tribunal not indivdually also the fact he couldn't tell the tribunal what he was injected with , its in the CAS findings, maybe they should of got better lawyers.

If he didn't receive injections as reported I'm struggling to see why he's been banned. Maybe he couldn't prove he didn't have injections because of lack of records. Pretty harsh if he didn't particpate.

Dirty Weekender wrote:

Peter North wrote:

Dirty Weekender wrote:

Peter North wrote: Yeah 34 players couldn't say no or question the program and they reckon they were duped, either they were complicit or brain dead.

Peter, you are pretty up to date with this whole saga. Have you any idea why Slattery has copped the ban if he did not particpate in the injection program as reported? He is one of the 34.

The players were involved as a group at the tribunal not indivdually also the fact he couldn't tell the tribunal what he was injected with , its in the CAS findings, maybe they should of got better lawyers.

If he didn't receive injections as reported I'm struggling to see why he's been banned. Maybe he couldn't prove he didn't have injections because of lack of records. Pretty harsh if he didn't particpate.

I guess you have to blame the lawyers for bad advice, if he wasn't part of the group he may of got a discount, imagine if every sportsman used the excuse of lack of records what message would that send, there would be drug cheats running around every where.

Regardless they've been found guilty of cheating up to them to appeal, the facts are no athlete or sportsman has got an injunction after a CAS finding, so even if they appeal it wont be heard till later on in the year anyway.

This is what drug cheats do they try to find any loop hole available, its not even about whether they cheated or not anymore its whether they can get off on a technicality.

The lawyers trying to make a buck out of this should consider some simple facts. Certain players signed a waiver basically agreeing to partake in a supplements injection program. WADA are satisfied there was sufficient evidence a banned substance was part of that program and the fact there were no positive tests and proper records were not kept is irrelevant to them.

Bottom line is WADA were satisfied Essendon undertook a doping program designed to cheat to gain an advantage over the rest of the competition, something we don't want to see in sport. Any player who didn't get independent advice before signing up has to pay the price.

You would think Jobe for one would have mentioned something to his old man straight away and say hey Dad what do you think of this? Surely Tim Watson would have said something along the lines of "You haven't signed anything I hope? Good, don't agree to any such program son, you could find yourself in a lot of trouble down the track".

Dirty Weekender wrote:

Peter North wrote:

Dirty Weekender wrote:

Peter North wrote: Yeah 34 players couldn't say no or question the program and they reckon they were duped, either they were complicit or brain dead.

Peter, you are pretty up to date with this whole saga. Have you any idea why Slattery has copped the ban if he did not particpate in the injection program as reported? He is one of the 34.

The players were involved as a group at the tribunal not indivdually also the fact he couldn't tell the tribunal what he was injected with , its in the CAS findings, maybe they should of got better lawyers.

If he didn't receive injections as reported I'm struggling to see why he's been banned. Maybe he couldn't prove he didn't have injections because of lack of records. Pretty harsh if he didn't particpate.

DW I can't speak to why he was suspended. What I find difficult to understand from what I have read, the players seem to be more concerned about not being able to play rather than what could be the long term consequences to their health because there seems to be a singular lack of knowledge of what was used in the injections. One can only hope that this serves as a warning for all future sportsmen and sportswomen.

That's about where I am with it 42. Big lesson to be learnt for our sport and all future generations.

If I was one of the players I'd be rounding up 33 other fellas and paying Mr Dank a personal visit to get to the bottom of it. No cameras no lawyers just 34 angry men requiring answers otherwise they'll never know. WADA still can't tell them for sure so there is only one way to find out. Confront Dank and do whatever it takes to get the truth. Only Dank knows for sure

Dirty Weekender wrote: That's about where I am with it 42. Big lesson to be learnt for our sport and all future generations.

If I was one of the players I'd be rounding up 33 other fellas and paying Mr Dank a personal visit to get to the bottom of it. No cameras no lawyers just 34 angry men requiring answers otherwise they'll never know. WADA still can't tell them for sure so there is only one way to find out. Confront Dank and do whatever it takes to get the truth. Only Dank knows for sure

What are you on about they have been done for TB4 Thymosin was on the consent forms they are complicit drug cheats when will the players and supporters take responsibility , no better than Lance Armstrong,.

Comfortably satisfied isn't actual proof Pete. It's a balance of probabilities conclusion. If the players are left in any doubt as they clearly indicate then I'd be fronting Dank face to face as a group and find out exactly what they were given. I believe the penalty should be applied as a future deterrent to all sportsmen & woman but I don't believe the players health should be left in any doubt from here and Dank needs confronting on a personal level, one that he can truly understand the immediate consequences of.

Grassy wrote: The Scarlett Pimpernel of AUSTRALIAN Sport.Or should that be Scarlett P-p-p-pumpernickel?

They seek him here,they seek him there.

Why isn't the Media Ratpack on his doorstep everyday,when you actually need 'em to do it?!

I assume you're talking about Dank, Imo Essendon hasn't gone after him , because what he reveals would open another can of worms, TB4 is only the tip of the iceberg of what the Essendon players were administered he's probably been payed off to keep quiet ala the weapon.

Grassy wrote: So why hasn't the Media tied him down for a story,in the Public Interest?

Open the can of worms,by all means.

But for some reason,they haven't.

I can't answer that, what I do know is that sports media in this saga have been pathetic you would think these so called journalists would at least try and get their heads around the WADA code before commenting.

Most of them are too scared to lose their accreditation with the AFL, dare I say it Damien Barrett and Patrck Smith have come out looking like decent journalists in all this and that's saying something.