jardine wrote: yolo you must understand that what most of us have had enough of, is when these people get here and start making instant demands. for people whom you say have no education, they seem to have an awful amount of knowledge about what to demand in a country they have never been to before. in a recent photgraph taken, there were young men getting off a boat wearing addidas gear, gold chains & they had the bodies of a weightlifters in competition.
racist is a very fashionable word used these days. it is used too easily & used too one diamentional.
it is remarkable how australia and its people are the target of such jibes. why is it that the so-called countries these people are fleeing from are not the ones being cited with the same criticism? when these people leave their countries, they do so under disguise to avoid being killed. they come here and they are at least initially being given a safe haven. yet in this warped twisted mentality and with these two points being common knowledge, australia is the country being given that "Racist" tag again.
This is a word that is used so often here these days, i guess people from outside of australia must think this is an horrendous place to live - wouldnt they? Of course not, judging by the influx of immigration in its droves.
why is it the United Nations are not held to account over what is going on in these countries? Do you want to know why? - its because they are basically a useless organization that will prefer to take the easy option of condoning everything australia does because we are not a dictatorship. the UN cannot reason with a dictatorship and given half the representitives of the UN are puppets to their own dictators, they will never go to the core of these problems. they instead target western countries whom are resigned to the fact they will not get the justified back up from a so-called human compassionate organization. they are anything but that.
i have never ever heard one do-gooder in this country (and there are plenty of them) call the middle east racist. Yet we have seen countless fanatical groups cut the heads off western citizens and post them on youtube. Or hang them and burn them alive. And they do this to people who are in the region to help their people. you will argue that boat people are escaping this madness, and i agree. but given these facts about what type people are there, would it not be right for us to have some identification ? does that make us conveniently "racist" yet again ???
the worlds focus and the critics who live here, should refocus their easy lables to the United Nations who are responsible for action against oppression. if you want to lable anyone anything, that is where your attention should target. Australian people have had an absolute gutful of being labled at every turn. the divide in culture is only getting larger because of world leaders who dont lead.
the UN is like a doctor who tells you you have cancer. then proceeds to give you a hair cut and clip your toenails. avoiding the core of the problem at all costs. you call us racists ? just imagine if you took Australia off the map right now. where would these people go? - Africa, the South Pole?
we do more for the oppressed than any other country in the world. and whenever we question our own security, we are labled racist. more than ever, our security and that of our childrens children depends on our actions. we can save a percentage of the world, but your kidding yourself if you think we can save everyone. Back on September 11th 2001, america dropped its guard on a dozen individuals. we all know the outcome. funny how we never heard the term racist to descibe either the hijackers, or the terrorists. i feel for the genuine boat people, but your narrow minded to lable anyone here a racist for not willing to play roulette with our security. Target the UN to do THEIR job. It cant be us all the time.
Who is getting here and making demands? Last time I checked boats get stopped by customs prior to getting to Australia (bar a couple here and there). We then proceed to throw them in a concetration camp and treat them like prisoners.
The word racism is used a lot these days because people are starting to realise that racism is still rife in our communities. Although we are taking leaps and bounds at obliterating it.
So what you're saying is the people in the countries that the boat people come from should be labelled racists?
I agree regarding the UN. They are a joke and like you stated, rather than getting to the core of the problem they carpet sweep. I am not saying what the boat people is doing is right, in fact it is horribly wrong. I just think people need to give them a little more compassion. In getting to the core of the problem, they need to be educated in the fact that you cant just rock up here on a boat and everything will be honkey dory. There are policies and procedures that need to be followed. If we can educate them with those little facts, then we solve the issue.
The extremists in these countries that do shit like that dont do it because of race, they do it because of religion.
Like I said, I dont deny the fact that these people should be identified and checked prior to living in Aus, I have never said otherwise, I just think that people should treat them with more dignity and respect. They are just like you and I after all.
Also, I have never labelled Australians, as a collective, racists. I simply said that to 58shark as he himself said that he was racist towards these people. If you are racist to one group of people, then you are racist to all. You cant pick and choose.