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Grump wrote:

La Hincha wrote: It's bloody hard to keep kids in the WAFL system nowadays mate.

Much different to when I was a kid. Back then it was an honour to play for Subiaco.

Nowadays, you kind of have to teach them gradually to love the Subiaco FC over time as they come through development squads and wear the mighty maroon and gold jumper.

The media has let us down. The WAFL isn't what it was but it's still a bloody fantastic comp. The more they bag us the less respect kids have for our clubs.

And then there's the ammos/country clubs that pay selected players with WAFL experience. Always tempting that coin on offer. We can't match them on that. We have dozens of players to pay..not just a select few.

Also Nowadays there's a soccer club within walking distance of their home. Particularly in the Northern suburbs. There wasn't when I was a kid.

But don't let the AFL/WAFC talk us out of our grounds or zones. It's the one thing we have that holds things together. As long as WE supply the talent...they will leave us be.

LH et al

I am seeing a change at EP and no it is not the alignment. It is the number of players from the last 2 years colts team staying at the club and wanting to play. It seems that the 'culture' been changing and I think it has to do with the move away from recruiting outside players, unless we really needed them and giving the local boys a chance.

The credit for some of this has to go to Joe Barbaro, Clint Ernst, Brendan McFaull and Starcevich and Gary Moss all of whom have had an impact on the development process. They have carried the idea that we can produced good players and have them progress. And I don't see it dropping off, as one Ressies player said on Saturday, we are here for the long haul and to play with our mates.

The old Subi boy Grump? If so good to see that he's still involved in footy.

DG wrote:

Grump wrote:

La Hincha wrote: It's bloody hard to keep kids in the WAFL system nowadays mate.

Much different to when I was a kid. Back then it was an honour to play for Subiaco.

Nowadays, you kind of have to teach them gradually to love the Subiaco FC over time as they come through development squads and wear the mighty maroon and gold jumper.

The media has let us down. The WAFL isn't what it was but it's still a bloody fantastic comp. The more they bag us the less respect kids have for our clubs.

And then there's the ammos/country clubs that pay selected players with WAFL experience. Always tempting that coin on offer. We can't match them on that. We have dozens of players to pay..not just a select few.

Also Nowadays there's a soccer club within walking distance of their home. Particularly in the Northern suburbs. There wasn't when I was a kid.

But don't let the AFL/WAFC talk us out of our grounds or zones. It's the one thing we have that holds things together. As long as WE supply the talent...they will leave us be.

LH et al

I am seeing a change at EP and no it is not the alignment. It is the number of players from the last 2 years colts team staying at the club and wanting to play. It seems that the 'culture' been changing and I think it has to do with the move away from recruiting outside players, unless we really needed them and giving the local boys a chance.

The credit for some of this has to go to Joe Barbaro, Clint Ernst, Brendan McFaull and Starcevich and Gary Moss all of whom have had an impact on the development process. They have carried the idea that we can produced good players and have them progress. And I don't see it dropping off, as one Ressies player said on Saturday, we are here for the long haul and to play with our mates.

The old Subi boy Grump? If so good to see that he's still involved in footy.

I did not know he played for Subi, Hawthorn yes but .....

He is a great fella, has done a lot of work with the Migrant boys in the various districts and zones.

La Hincha wrote:

MarkOlsen wrote: Subi may have a small zone but they have the biggest junior club in Australia - Sorrento/Duncraig and also other established junior areas like Kingsley, Karrinyup, Warwick and Carine..hardly struggling areas..

The playing numbers speak for themselves. Sorrento-Duncraig is not the biggest junior club in Australia. They are based in Victoria from what I'm told. But yes, it is our ONE genuinely strong junior club.

Karrinyup hardly fields sides.

Subiaco, East Perth and West Perth have 24 teams each in the 14's to 17';s age bracket. As I said, the lowest in the WAFL.

Last year on their website Sorrento Duncraig reckon they had 870 kids play at their club, good luck finding any bigger in WA let alone Australia..
Karrinyup according to thei website has 7 teams plus auskick - not sure what the problem is there..
7 of the 10 sides inthe Subi/Claremont year 11's sides are Subi sides so not sure what the drama is again..

The figures speak for themselves mate.

Subiaco, East Perth and West Perth each have 24 teams playing in the 14-17's age bracket which is the lowest of all clubs if you factor in Claremont's teams in that age bracket representing Hale, Christchurch and Scotch. Even accounting for the fact that perhaps 20% of those PSA kids don't live in the Claremont zone, that still would give them 12 teams in the from PSA alone in the 14's-17's age bracket.

Having one really strong junior club means nothing. It's the total number of teams in the zone between the 14's-17's age bracket which will provide a pool of players large enough to sustain a league club's development squads and colts.

West Perth have 7 junior clubs all medium to strong, Swan Districts have 17 junior clubs which are small to medium covering a much larger area. It adds up to 27 14's-17's teams in the SD zone compared to 24 in the WP zone.

Subiaco also have 7 junior clubs representing 24 teams in the 14's-17's age bracket.

East Perth have 9 junior clubs with 24 teams in total in same age bracket.

At the moment the zoning is about as even as it's been for a while. BUT the figures speak for themselves, EP, S, WP have the smallest number of teams in the 14's-17's age bracket.

yet Swans dont have a year 11's comp and Subi have teams in the year 11 and 12 comps..so therefore they have access to more kids to pick their colts teams..
those figures speak for themselves..

For what it's worth the current figures of 14's-17's teams in the metro area are.

Claremont including 4x3 PSA 33
East Fremantle 29
Peel 28
Swan Dist 27
Perth 26
South Fremantle 25
West Perth 24
Subiaco 24
East Perth 24

have you got the breakdown for 16's and 17's please

MarkOlsen wrote: yet Swans dont have a year 11's comp and Subi have teams in the year 11 and 12 comps..so therefore they have access to more kids to pick their colts teams..
those figures speak for themselves..

It was Swan's DFDC decision to combine the 16's and 17's. Doesn't mean they don't have 16 year old players.

Subi can always have teams in the 16's and 17's comp because we amalgamate with West Perth DFDC and Claremont DFDC so we can form a varied multiple team competition.

Perth and East Perth DFDC do the same.

It's up to each DFDC to decide how they want to structure their comps and if they want to join forces with another WAFL club.

why would they combine them if they had enough for each year group ?
wouldnt that mean that each team would have over 40 players ?

Yes mate.

Claremont 8
Subiaco 9
Swan Dist 8
West Perth 7
East Perth 8
Peel 8
Perth 10
East Fremantle 7