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La Hincha wrote:

DG wrote: This plus the alignment really makes a mockery of the points rule that was introduced to stop the dominance of the wealthier clubs Subi, SF & Swans(back then).

Yeah it's a difficult situation. I doubt Claremont would survive without their draft picks and the money that flows through because of it. They have very few supporters as you know. I think the WAFC takes that into account when formulating the zones. Not 100% sure though.

But mate, Subi are fighting as hard as they can. Second spot in the colts with the second smallest zone.

Not really mate. CL have been far & away the best team over the last 3 years so get rid of or substantially raise the points maximum & then at least there will be thee other sides plus the alignment teams(well maybe peel) that can match them. I cant really see them dropping off anytime soon even with losing their aligned players because as you said their jnr zones are so strong they will have a steady stream of good players coming through for ever, plus good selective recruiting ie seaby.

DG wrote:

La Hincha wrote:

DG wrote: This plus the alignment really makes a mockery of the points rule that was introduced to stop the dominance of the wealthier clubs Subi, SF & Swans(back then).

Yeah it's a difficult situation. I doubt Claremont would survive without their draft picks and the money that flows through because of it. They have very few supporters as you know. I think the WAFC takes that into account when formulating the zones. Not 100% sure though.

But mate, Subi are fighting as hard as they can. Second spot in the colts with the second smallest zone.

Not really mate. CL have been far & away the best team over the last 3 years so get rid of or substantially raise the points maximum & then at least there will be thee other sides plus the alignment teams(well maybe peel) that can match them. I cant really see them dropping off anytime soon even with losing their aligned players because as you said their jnr zones are so strong they will have a steady stream of good players coming through for ever, plus good selective recruiting ie seaby.

I don't think that they will drop off at all. They have a conveyer belt of talent at their disposal. They just roll them out.

La Hincha wrote:

DG wrote:

La Hincha wrote:

DG wrote: This plus the alignment really makes a mockery of the points rule that was introduced to stop the dominance of the wealthier clubs Subi, SF & Swans(back then).

Yeah it's a difficult situation. I doubt Claremont would survive without their draft picks and the money that flows through because of it. They have very few supporters as you know. I think the WAFC takes that into account when formulating the zones. Not 100% sure though.

But mate, Subi are fighting as hard as they can. Second spot in the colts with the second smallest zone.

Not really mate. CL have been far & away the best team over the last 3 years so get rid of or substantially raise the points maximum & then at least there will be thee other sides plus the alignment teams(well maybe peel) that can match them. I cant really see them dropping off anytime soon even with losing their aligned players because as you said their jnr zones are so strong they will have a steady stream of good players coming through for ever, plus good selective recruiting ie seaby.

I don't think that they will drop off at all. They have a conveyer belt of talent at their disposal. They just roll them out.

Yep.

Unfortunately we can't raise the salary cap or points system. The clubs don't have the money and need saving from themselves at times.

Even Subi! Shortly the Subiaco Oval deal will be a thing of the past. Then we are in trouble. In recent years, the club has been saving that money for when that time arrives but a couple of mil won't last long these days.

We have to start finding draft picks to raise revenue like the other clubs do otherwise we might be the first of the G7 clubs to fold.

One thing I find interesting about Claremont is that they seem to retain many players who are in their reserves set up who are quite happy to bide their time till an opportunity comes up in the league team. Very few players get frustrated and walk ( Ben Saunders is one exception). Anton Hamp is an example of a player who would have chalked up many more league games with other clubs, but has been content to play in the reserves in previous years and wait for his opportunity which he is getting now. This indicates to me that the club has a pretty good culture.

Yep its a big problem.

It's bloody hard to keep kids in the WAFL system nowadays mate.

Much different to when I was a kid. Back then it was an honour to play for Subiaco.

Nowadays, you kind of have to teach them gradually to love the Subiaco FC over time as they come through development squads and wear the mighty maroon and gold jumper.

The media has let us down. The WAFL isn't what it was but it's still a bloody fantastic comp. The more they bag us the less respect kids have for our clubs.

And then there's the ammos/country clubs that pay selected players with WAFL experience. Always tempting that coin on offer. We can't match them on that. We have dozens of players to pay..not just a select few.

Also Nowadays there's a soccer club within walking distance of their home. Particularly in the Northern suburbs. There wasn't when I was a kid.

But don't let the AFL/WAFC talk us out of our grounds or zones. It's the one thing we have that holds things together. As long as WE supply the talent...they will leave us be.

La Hincha wrote: It's bloody hard to keep kids in the WAFL system nowadays mate.

Much different to when I was a kid. Back then it was an honour to play for Subiaco.

Nowadays, you kind of have to teach them gradually to love the Subiaco FC over time as they come through development squads and wear the mighty maroon and gold jumper.

The media has let us down. The WAFL isn't what it was but it's still a bloody fantastic comp. The more they bag us the less respect kids have for our clubs.

And then there's the ammos/country clubs that pay selected players with WAFL experience. Always tempting that coin on offer. We can't match them on that. We have dozens of players to pay..not just a select few.

Also Nowadays there's a soccer club within walking distance of their home. Particularly in the Northern suburbs. There wasn't when I was a kid.

But don't let the AFL/WAFC talk us out of our grounds or zones. It's the one thing we have that holds things together. As long as WE supply the talent...they will leave us be.

LH et al

I am seeing a change at EP and no it is not the alignment. It is the number of players from the last 2 years colts team staying at the club and wanting to play. It seems that the 'culture' been changing and I think it has to do with the move away from recruiting outside players, unless we really needed them and giving the local boys a chance.

The credit for some of this has to go to Joe Barbaro, Clint Ernst, Brendan McFaull and Starcevich and Gary Moss all of whom have had an impact on the development process. They have carried the idea that we can produced good players and have them progress. And I don't see it dropping off, as one Ressies player said on Saturday, we are here for the long haul and to play with our mates.

And believe it or not as insignificant as it seems to us, the little league is important. Often that is the only time these kids ever attend a WAFL game before they are invited to development squads. At least they've familiar with the Subi guernsey once before they join the club.

It's like a house of cards.

You pull out one and nobody thinks it makes much difference but it does. You pull out 2 or 3 and the whole thing collapses.

Just for the time being we have to keep everything we have in place. Even the little things that don't seem to be that important.

Grump wrote:

La Hincha wrote: It's bloody hard to keep kids in the WAFL system nowadays mate.

Much different to when I was a kid. Back then it was an honour to play for Subiaco.

Nowadays, you kind of have to teach them gradually to love the Subiaco FC over time as they come through development squads and wear the mighty maroon and gold jumper.

The media has let us down. The WAFL isn't what it was but it's still a bloody fantastic comp. The more they bag us the less respect kids have for our clubs.

And then there's the ammos/country clubs that pay selected players with WAFL experience. Always tempting that coin on offer. We can't match them on that. We have dozens of players to pay..not just a select few.

Also Nowadays there's a soccer club within walking distance of their home. Particularly in the Northern suburbs. There wasn't when I was a kid.

But don't let the AFL/WAFC talk us out of our grounds or zones. It's the one thing we have that holds things together. As long as WE supply the talent...they will leave us be.

LH et al

I am seeing a change at EP and no it is not the alignment. It is the number of players from the last 2 years colts team staying at the club and wanting to play. It seems that the 'culture' been changing and I think it has to do with the move away from recruiting outside players, unless we really needed them and giving the local boys a chance.

The credit for some of this has to go to Joe Barbaro, Clint Ernst, Brendan McFaull and Starcevich and Gary Moss all of whom have had an impact on the development process. They have carried the idea that we can produced good players and have them progress. And I don't see it dropping off, as one Ressies player said on Saturday, we are here for the long haul and to play with our mates.

Well, East Perth are doing well with their zone in my opinion. It is tough for EP, S, WP at the moment.