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Not Right & Justification 10 years 7 months ago #29801

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Yesterdays result was justified on 2 fronts. The fact that West Perth played the game and conditions far better, and also the fact East Perth (and Peel) have sold the core value of what every football club should always stand for, Integrity.

I have not missed a Grand Final for years, in fact the only time was in the early 90's when I missed a few whilst living in America. The crowd yesterday was 20,000, which is just under half the capacity of Subiaco Oval. Having been to many Grand Finals I have my doubts the crowd was actually 20,000. I realise the weather was appalling and the euphoria of Fremantles win had taken the whole towns attention. But the crowd was appalling yesterday, I dont care how you look at it. And the ground was not even close to being half full. 20,000 I think is doubtful.

East Perth people may lable myself & others who have the same stance in terms of the alignment, as disloyal. That is fine. I still to this day feel the feeling of disloyalty is mutual given the complete underhanded way the EPFC board and Bronte Howson went about its secret decision. A cowardly decision made in the most underhanded way possible. Without consultation of its people. That is not myth, that is an iron clad fact.

What the competition needed this year was for East Perth people to show some kind of backlash, it may have done nothing however giving the board that free passage throughout the year has only hardend their naive belief that selling the soul of this club was justified. Making the Grand Final this year has clouded the judgement of many, who appear to still not have grasped what lies ahead. I can tell you it will certainly be felt after September 22nd 2013. It starts now. First and foremost we should all be ambassadors for the WAFL competition as a whole. Without the traditions that have been built, and the traditions of all the clubs, it is all meaningless. The argument that the EPFC took the deal to secure its future, slaps in the face of the other argument that without taking the cherry the club wont survive. If that is the case (genuinely) then all clubs apart from EP and Peel wont be around in 5-10 years. My point being what benefit has East Perth had if we lose every other club, and we end up playing made up mock sides who have no culture, identity or history. There is no satisfaction, the club may as well not exist. It is like Fitzroy supporters being expected to follow their side in a tinpot league. It is simply not the same. It will not work.

The old saying "If you love something, set it free" has been ringing in my ears all year. I thought I loved my club enough to make a stand against a decision I think is just wrong. For the benefit of my club, it needed a tough love approach and I will not back away from that. This is what East Perth needed and its supporters needed to do.

Nobody including myself expected any Royal person to disown the club. Nobody has asked any EP supporter to throw away support. But if Claremont, West Perth or East Fremantle got every Eagles/Freo player and an EXTRA $300,000 a year, the East Perth people would be jumping up & down like the others are today. We would be lining up with them in the ridicule section. We would be demanding the supporters make a stand, and rightfully so. This is not disowning your club or showing no loyalty, it is proving you care about your club.

Something stood out at yesterdays Grand Final like a sore thumb. The lead up to the biggest game of the year was boring, lifeless and showed a complete lack of any intuition. The WAFL have basically given up making any effort to showcase this day. Even as the teams ran out onto the ground, it was just flat. An East Perth v West Perth Grand Final should be at fever pitch. It was a pathetic build up, I could not believe it. The crowd was also flat and maybe given the way East Perth, Peel and the WAFC themselves sold out everyone else, maybe that crowd figure was a sign a percentage of people have had enough. The WAFL and WAFC complete lack of effort on Grand Final day, just shows that those given the privledged position of running our game simply do not care. They have only one interest and that is West Coast & Fremantle. The underhanded decisions they have made over the course of 20 years (including the ridiculous decision to give a license to Peel) proves they are happy to see the WAFL die on the vine and go away.

This is why I feel as an East Perth supporter, it was my job to make a verbal and physical stand against these decisions. All of the above is a part result of a decision our clubs board made. And dont give me the speel about if we didnt do it, someone else would have. That is a cop out.

The result yesterday was a win (in part) for integrity. And I feel for good core players at East Perth who missed out on a premiership. But if you lose by 48 points you cant cry about it, you didnt earn it anyway. The other team did earn it 100%. But from this day on how can we expect any wholehearted satisfaction at success? Please can anyone give me an answer with a straight face ? How is taking this new deal anything but a backward step. If $$$ signs are your answer, and nothing I have said even remotely computes with your thoughts, then the barrage of insults and distasteful comments labled at our club are not even debatable. Much like the non-debate process that our club took when NOT dealing truthfully with its own people.

Yesterday the WAFL competition deserved better. The crowd was pitiful, the pre-match was non existant, and the feeling I got was one of a tired listless organisation. Almost like they said Lets play this thing and get it over & done with. If yesterday is not enough for the WAFL to finally realise the Grand Final should be played after the AFL like someone mentioned in a post here last week, then start preparing a grave.

Well done to West Perth on their triumph. Fully deserved premiership.

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Not Right & Justification 10 years 7 months ago #29803

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Jardine a very thoughtful and it would appear a very heartfelt commentary on the h ost club alignment. As I said on another topic I feel empathy and sympathy for people like you as I would have been gutted if Swans had done a deal involving being a host club. How much irreparable damage has been done to East Perth and the WAFL will be known in the not too distant future.

When the Eagles move to Lathlain Park Oval how much damage will be done to Perth as well as East Perth is to be determined.

The size of the crowd for the GF is a damning indictment and people at the WAFC need to understand the ramifications of that crowd toward the onging viability of the WAFL. The weather is not the reason for the poor crowd and to use it as an excuse would be unforgivable.

What can true East Perth supporters do to fix the problem relating to the host club? I am not sure other than to elect East Perth members to their board who will try to reverse the decision.

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Not Right & Justification 10 years 7 months ago #29805

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jardine a great post by yourself, probably the best one I have read on this site. I can tell you have a lot of passion for the Royals but unfortunately those at the top have sold you out. I hope for your sake this alignment does not continue.

Even Dennis is against it au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/-/afl/...n-for-the-good-guys/

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Not Right & Justification 10 years 7 months ago #29812

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Very well said jardine. To this day, I feel as if the guts have been ripped out of me.
The so called football commission have simply taken the easy road in allowing all this bloody mess to happen and god only knows what's in store for the 2014 season and beyond. If attendance figures fall (like they have this season) it will be bad. The attendance at yesterdays grand final was poor and I think that a shame.
Some supporters of the alignments have supported the club and that is good for them. To cricise others that don't support the model is not good because of the underhanded and sly manner the alignment was introduced.

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Not Right & Justification 10 years 7 months ago #29813

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How do we get Dennis Cometti to be the Commissioner!!

Dennis could gather many heavy hitters & the support he would receive would be overwhelming . He would turn the WAFL back into a legitimate competition. He would do a fantastic job.

I like his comment about how players at Fremantle are struggling with the wafl set-up. They are within a hair of a premiership, so what have they to complain about? Their argument should be that have no argument. The eagles have nobody to blame but themselves, but their character says they will blame the system, highlighting their arrogance.

VOTE 1 : DENNIS COMETTI :)

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Not Right & Justification 10 years 7 months ago #29814

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Box Hill
Geelong
East Perth
West Perth

All grand finalist's this year. Only West Perth not aligned to an AFL club.

Is this the sign of things to come across all state leagues??

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Not Right & Justification 10 years 7 months ago #29818

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Very good Jardine, well written.

It is true about how the dockers are knocking on the door of a premiership of which the players have come via the current system, so what is sending all the players to Peel going to do?

I spoke to Dennis about this at a West Perth practice game, he thought the current system we have in WA is unique and works better that shoving all the players into one club like they do in Melbourne, he cannot understand why they would want to go this way.

Anyway I think East Perth need to reverse this.

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Not Right & Justification 10 years 7 months ago #29823

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Jardine, I think you should send the contents of this post as a letter to the West Australian and see if they publish it. I have my doubts that they would because its an Eagles rag, but it's worth a try. Your post is without doubt the most compelling piece of writing I have ever seen on this site and a real insight into how this decision has impacted on yourself and no doubt many of your fellow Royals supporters.

It made me sad to read it and I can only imagine what my response would have been if it had been Swans that had decided to align with one of the AFL clubs. There is hope, however when there are people with integrity like yourself who are prepared to stand up and say no to the common populist view that AFL is king and money is the sole factor that drives the grassroots game.

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Not Right & Justification 10 years 7 months ago #29835

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the last thing I want is sympathy, and I am realistic enough to understand the AFL is king everywhere. But having seen the attitudes in the USA compared to here in Australia, it is laughable how such a sacred competition is being ground down to a pulp. it just isnt neccessary and it does not justify John Worsfolds reasoning of improving 1% . That comment itself is actually an insult.

What hurts more is reading posts where the "F"and "C" word are being used to describe east perth. I understand the aggression and I dont condone anyone response in theory, but it deminishes the character of the WAFL football supporter. It just looks bad and creates a stigma of destabilization.

The WAFL fan does/and never did deserve to have to battle within its own ranks like we are today. We gave national football its life, and for that we are left to ponder a smouldering mess. Im not trying to sound over dramatic, just venting yet another year going by with a missed opportunity to put WAFL on the centre stage on Grand Final day. This isnt just an East Perth thing, far from it. But West Perth had a fantactic win yesterday and even they deserved much better in terms of the perception of the competition they succeeded in, and the significant scope of their achievement.

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Not Right & Justification 10 years 7 months ago #29836

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fish wrote: jardine a great post by yourself, probably the best one I have read on this site. I can tell you have a lot of passion for the Royals but unfortunately those at the top have sold you out. I hope for your sake this alignment does not continue.

Even Dennis is against it au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/-/afl/...n-for-the-good-guys/


Before you launch into creating Cometti as the apostle to lead the WAFL to the safe land beware what his motives are (and this is not that I disagree but beware the promises made by the snake oil salesman).

Firstly like any true WP supporter he hates EP and will shoot us at first chnace, secondly he was against WCE (notsure about entry into AFL or VFL at the time) but he has openly expressed his displeasure at the name and colours and their culture and he is a journalist just like hagdorn and townsend et al and a headline in the home town toilet wrapper is better than anything.

I maybe mistaken but A lot of people voted for Barnett and he is apolitician, who would you beleive first a journo or a politician!
We live in a time where intelligent people are being silenced so stupid people won't be offended

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