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Bazza wrote: We are now witnessing the product of 8 appaulingly neglegent years under Obama, NK has happily gone along deveopling ICBM , mini Nukes and Subs all unchecked, to make matter worse he did a deal with Iran that will allow them to do the same, a bunch of nutters that openly state they want to wipe an entire country in Israel off the planet. Anyway at this stage I still think we are in the Phoney War stage a lot of big talk , some build up , but not a lot of actual contact. NK has 15 subs that could be anywhere in the world, off LA , off Sydney maybe Freo, all have ICBM, the threats real , I cant see them doing much at all so far , they will be wiped out. Our intel is far better with the US and 5 powers agreement.
China is behind entire thing, they are using NK as a proxy to put pressure on the US for regional dominance.

Bazza you really should stop watching Fox News and reading the Breitbart site.

Bazza wrote:

DD wrote:

swan42 wrote:

DD wrote: Grassy maybe if the last US president had taken a harder line then this rogue nation run by a kid wouldn't be as advanced in building its arsenal and acting like a spoiled little shit firing rockets into space to try to intimidate the rest of the world.

For all the criticism the USA cops because it's an easy target bit like tall poppy syndrome, it does not, has not and never ever pose a threat to the well being of other nations or want to invade another nation to take it over. And please don't come on here and start crapping on about Iraq and Afghanistan. Yes it was probably a mistake but as we know those countries were and still are a breeding ground for terrorism, the primary reason why the USA and other nations are there.

DD there were no WMDs; it was a LIE. That was the mistake. With respect to Afghanistan history showed that the US were never going to succeed there and it has proved to be correct. Vilifying a group of people based on their religion was not, is not and never will be the solution to countering terrorism. In fact it does exactly the opposite.

I thought a smart bloke like yourself Swan would have worked out what I was saying.

Hes not that smart , he reckons Rugby Union is a working class West Aussie sport....lol

Bazza they played Rugby at Belmont Senior High School in the 1960s. Belmont located in the (then) Shire of Belmont in Perth, Western Australia. Belmont then and now is a working class area. Now provide proof that Rugby was not played then or perhaps you would like to prove that it wasn't a working class area.

swan42 wrote:

Bazza wrote: We are now witnessing the product of 8 appaulingly neglegent years under Obama, NK has happily gone along deveopling ICBM , mini Nukes and Subs all unchecked, to make matter worse he did a deal with Iran that will allow them to do the same, a bunch of nutters that openly state they want to wipe an entire country in Israel off the planet. Anyway at this stage I still think we are in the Phoney War stage a lot of big talk , some build up , but not a lot of actual contact. NK has 15 subs that could be anywhere in the world, off LA , off Sydney maybe Freo, all have ICBM, the threats real , I cant see them doing much at all so far , they will be wiped out. Our intel is far better with the US and 5 powers agreement.
China is behind entire thing, they are using NK as a proxy to put pressure on the US for regional dominance.

Bazza you really should stop watching Fox News and reading the Breitbart site.

Lol what is that some save the whale and the tree hugging hippie site? Fox News is the only news program that reports the truth and allows both sides of the argument. Australian media is definitely in the CNN corner of self preservation of a system that the common man has woken up to.

swan42 wrote:

Bazza wrote: We are now witnessing the product of 8 appaulingly neglegent years under Obama, NK has happily gone along deveopling ICBM , mini Nukes and Subs all unchecked, to make matter worse he did a deal with Iran that will allow them to do the same, a bunch of nutters that openly state they want to wipe an entire country in Israel off the planet. Anyway at this stage I still think we are in the Phoney War stage a lot of big talk , some build up , but not a lot of actual contact. NK has 15 subs that could be anywhere in the world, off LA , off Sydney maybe Freo, all have ICBM, the threats real , I cant see them doing much at all so far , they will be wiped out. Our intel is far better with the US and 5 powers agreement.
China is behind entire thing, they are using NK as a proxy to put pressure on the US for regional dominance.

Bazza you really should stop watching Fox News and reading the Breitbart site.

Dont watch or read either, but my guess is your buried in tne Guardian 7 days a week!

Grassy wrote:

Bazza wrote:

Grassy wrote:

Bazza wrote: We are now witnessing the product of 8 appaulingly neglegent years under Obama, NK has happily gone along deveopling ICBM , mini Nukes and Subs all unchecked, to make matter worse he did a deal with Iran that will allow them to do the same, a bunch of nutters that openly state they want to wipe an entire country in Israel off the planet. Anyway at this stage I still think we are in the Phoney War stage a lot of big talk , some build up , but not a lot of actual contact. NK has 15 subs that could be anywhere in the world, off LA , off Sydney maybe Freo, all have ICBM, the threats real , I cant see them doing much at all so far , they will be wiped out. Our intel is far better with the US and 5 powers agreement.

Does China trust that Nut so much,that his ego will not extend to them and he fires a few at them?What does he really care about his own people?
China is behind entire thing, they are using NK as a proxy to put pressure on the US for regional dominance.

Its not so much trust as control, all NK weapons platforms are controlled by Beijing, they can shut down, jam radars, satellites, ICBM guidance systems. They built and supplied the gear and control if and when its used.

Are you sure about that?!

Yep, Technicians, Advisors, Engineers that run all the stuff come from China, you reckon those bankrupt half wits could do it alone?
Remind me where that Division came from that our boys took on at Kapyong Valley came from? Nothings changed.

Baz: what the Chinese don't realise is that if the Americans do ever withdraw from the Pacific, it will not be pretty for them. It will lead to the complete re-militarisation of Japan and an arms race which China would lose.

Grassy: the Japs would get nuclear weapons -- the Chinese would never get across the sea; the Japanese would re-build their navy and make certain that they control the seas lanes to the Middle-East, Australia, and the US, thereby denying the same to China.

ArkRoyal wrote: Baz: what the Chinese don't realise is that if the Americans do ever withdraw from the Pacific, it will not be pretty for them. It will lead to the complete re-militarisation of Japan and an arms race which China would lose.

Lets put it this way Ark the Japanese Navy already has 26 Destroyers we have none active as we sit here today!