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30plusyeardrought wrote:

anchorman wrote: A question to you both,do either of you think that NN can provide a premiership to the Eagles in the same manner that Dean Cox did for the Eagles?I don't think he can.

TBH AM i think thats a really dumb question.
Cox played his part no doubt and he rucked to some gun midfielders,some of the best going around at that time,the Eagles dont have that depth of midfielders anymore.
NN has mnay more years yet to reach his best and with that who knows?
I havent seen Sandilands as yet deliver the Dockers a flag.
If the Eagles win a flag in the next 5 or so years(which i doubt they will) NN will have played his part along with 21 others.

I remember not long ago Geelong playing Hawkins for a long stretch of games out of form,carrying a hidden injury or whatever and the word coming out of Geelong at the time was he wasnt going to be dropped to the ressies.
Cloke at Collingwood is another,he has patches every year where he's out of form yet he never gets dropped.
Every club has them or has had them at some stage,sticking with players out of form.
Generally Ruckmen and Key forwards get more lattitude from coaches when it comes to form,rightly or wrongly.
Some on big bucks,some not.

Good post 30. Some people have a very selective memory.

So i will ask the question in all seriousness 58, IF nic nat wasnt so marketable, would he still be in the ones?. For what it is worth i am stunned how cloke hasnt been dropped though

UNKA2 wrote: So i will ask the question in all seriousness 58, IF nic nat wasnt so marketable, would he still be in the ones?. For what it is worth i am stunned how cloke hasnt been dropped though

That's not a question that you or I could answer unk. It would all depend on where they see him fitting in to future plans and as to whether they believe in what he has to offer this future. ala some of the players 30 spoke of.

58shark wrote:

UNKA2 wrote: So i will ask the question in all seriousness 58, IF nic nat wasnt so marketable, would he still be in the ones?. For what it is worth i am stunned how cloke hasnt been dropped though

That's not a question that you or I could answer unk. It would all depend on where they see him fitting in to future plans and as to whether they believe in what he has to offer this future. ala some of the players 30 spoke of.

Gee 58, ya ever thought of taking up politics . Thats such a fence sitting reply . Im NOT asking what they see in him mate, i am asking YOUR view on that question.

UNKA2 wrote:

58shark wrote:

UNKA2 wrote: So i will ask the question in all seriousness 58, IF nic nat wasnt so marketable, would he still be in the ones?. For what it is worth i am stunned how cloke hasnt been dropped though

That's not a question that you or I could answer unk. It would all depend on where they see him fitting in to future plans and as to whether they believe in what he has to offer this future. ala some of the players 30 spoke of.

Gee 58, ya ever thought of taking up politics . Thats such a fence sitting reply . Im NOT asking what they see in him mate, i am asking YOUR view on that question.

I must be reading too many articles in The Australian newspaper!! In answer to your question, yes I would persevere with him. There's too much promise there to bury in the reserves. I really believe that it's a matter of time before he starts to rip games apart.

58shark wrote:

UNKA2 wrote:

58shark wrote:

UNKA2 wrote: So i will ask the question in all seriousness 58, IF nic nat wasnt so marketable, would he still be in the ones?. For what it is worth i am stunned how cloke hasnt been dropped though

That's not a question that you or I could answer unk. It would all depend on where they see him fitting in to future plans and as to whether they believe in what he has to offer this future. ala some of the players 30 spoke of.

Gee 58, ya ever thought of taking up politics . Thats such a fence sitting reply . Im NOT asking what they see in him mate, i am asking YOUR view on that question.

I must be reading too many articles in The Australian newspaper!! In answer to your question, yes I would persevere with him. There's too much promise there to bury in the reserves. I really believe that it's a matter of time before he starts to rip games apart.

Fair nuff Mr 58.

UNKA2 wrote: So i will ask the question in all seriousness 58, IF nic nat wasnt so marketable, would he still be in the ones?. For what it is worth i am stunned how cloke hasnt been dropped though

I think he would be, in fact I would almost guarantee that he would be playing. Once again, when fit and firing he is easily the best tap ruckman in the game. Granted he hasnt hit his best form yet but that time will come.

Re the talk on Nic Nat and Usain Bolt and "speed". Some wag put this comment regarding that.

Nic Nat v Bolt....as soon as the starter says "take your mark" , Nic will need some help.

As Barney said there is a marketable salary cap which I heard on Grandstand is 1.2 million per year. Use of this cap needs to be qualified to the AFL. So in saying that, NicNats player salary cap income is about the 500k mark. Which is more to most peoples liking I'm sure.
In NicNats form he had groin surgery in the preseason and is still finding his fitness. Leaving him in the two's wouldn't be the best for the overall team, simply because I don't think Simpson believe's he is going to win the flag in his first year.

This should give NicNat some more belief in himself.
www.westcoasteagles.com.au/news/2014-05-...s-the-need-for-speed
Fastest Eagle ever.