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C2

Swan Valley (C2) 0.0 0.0 0.0 11.13 (79)
Canning Vale (C2) 0.0 0.0 0.0 19.7 (121)

Mosman Park (C2) 0.0 0.0 0.0 12.14 (86)
Quinns District (C2) 0.0 0.0 0.0 15.6 (96)

Bassendean (C2) 0.0 0.0 0.0 30.22 (202)
Manning Rippers (C2) 0.0 0.0 0.0 6.0 (36)

Kenwick (C2) 0.0 0.0 0.0 7.10 (52)
Warnbro Swans (C2) 0.0 0.0 0.0 14.9 (93)

Snesa (C2) 0.0 0.0 0.0 14.5 (89)
Canning South Perth (C2) 0.0 0.0 0.0 18.10 (118)

Well Mossie Park's 8-match winning streak comes to an end - the almighty Quinns are pushed. Basso make a 166-point statement and Canning win in the Wyong Derby! Be interetsed to hear some write ups this week.

Colts
Swan Valley 10.5.65 def by Canningvale 11.12.78
Sloppy game of footy - the ground was very dewy and slippery under foot. BUT it was a close game all day - the Valley took their chances in front of the big sticks and Canningvale were a bit sloppy compared to usual. Last quarter was the difference when the Cougar Cubs kicked a few unanswered goals.

Reserves
Swan Valley 20.10.130 def Canningvale 5.7.37
I thought this was going to be a bigger win by the Valley - only watched the first quarter and the score was 8.7 - 0.0 or something. Looking at the final score I am really proud of our twos who keep coming back each week knowing they are undermanned. Valley had some of the biggest units I have ever seen in their twos - GIANTS!

League
Swan Valley 11.13.79 def by Canningvale 19.7.121
Interesting game. We had a very good first quarter followed by two sub-standard quarters then a good last term. Basically, the two good quarters we had proved to be the difference in the score. Valley have some slick players, two in particular need to be closely checked otherwise they can carve up opposition (Ruckman #22 & Midfielder #10). Sloppy game for large parts - I am sure both sides will be working on their skills this week.

From a CV perspective - just one point of note. We always make an effort to have a beer or two at opposition clubs on away games.. As usual the 15/20 of us went into the Valley bar to have a beverage and strangely there were only a couple of Valley guys in there. After ten or fifteen minutes there were none. As we left we realised they were all in the front bar/another room doing their awards...? Interesting to see what other people think of this - perhaps a bit distasteful doing it while we were still there especially seeing as we weren't invited in to have a listen or anything, we were left to drink by ourselves...

L-A-G we played up at the valley mudpit last year and the same was the case; they did their awards in the front bar not long after the league game. i think you would find you're welcome to join them, as we had 30 odd blokes hang around for a few and they also gave out a 6 pack to who they judged as our best player on the day.

I wasn't there LAG so I don't know but I agree about doing awards with other clubs around. Not something we've ever done at Valley as, like you, I find it distasteful personally.

I think the lads have made an error and not realised you blokes were in there as they would have all gone in to the function room had a beer and done the awards later.

Glad to see you doing that by the way. Something that the WAAFL teams don't do very well. It was basically law in the SFL and you'll find the SFL teams do it better than WAAFL teams.

Viper wrote: I wasn't there LAG so I don't know but I agree about doing awards with other clubs around. Not something we've ever done at Valley as, like you, I find it distasteful personally.

I think the lads have made an error and not realised you blokes were in there as they would have all gone in to the function room had a beer and done the awards later.

Glad to see you doing that by the way. Something that the WAAFL teams don't do very well. It was basically law in the SFL and you'll find the SFL teams do it better than WAAFL teams.

That's it - lots of us older guys have a SFL background anyway.

I would hope that maybe they didn't know we were there because I was a bit upset about it.

Happy Monday Folks!!!

was an interesting day down at Kenwick.

Colts
i think the year of struggling for numbers and taking big losses has begun to wear down our young blokes. a few arguments among themselves and such but we managed to get it under control after halftime and they began to play football. by then the deficit was too large to pegg back.

Reserves
i saw something in this game that I along with most of our club had never seen before. the first half was played with some very good intensity a bit fiery but no real fights, there were a few injuries and a couple of yellow cards,(1 for arguing with the umpire and 1 for a bump it looked fair but the umpire gave him a yellow saying it's because the guy got hurt) Warnbro had been kicking away being 7 or 8 goals up then just before halftime the umpires had a difference of opinion about a call, our umpire called holding the ball while standing 2m from the action the other umpire ran from 30m away and called a high tackle our umpire said the holding the ball will stand because he was in best position and there was no high tackle, so the Warnbro umpire threw his hands in the air ran off the field got in his car and left. everyone was a bit confused from there so our pres and i believe it was Warnbros pres tried to sort it out our league Ump even offered to be the second official for the second half but warnbro wouldn't have it so in the end they called it. be interesting to se what comes of it

League
this was a game of two halves the first half was a training drill for Warnbro kicking 11 goals to 3.2 not taking away from Warnbro but there was really nothing we had done in the first half well we lacked intensity our kicking was down some of us just didn't look like they wanted to be there. but after halftime we seemed to wake up and realise we were supposed to be playing a game of football. kicking 4.8 to their 3.something the scoreboard showed them to be on 13 goals so we though it was only 2 goals. all areas of the game picked up we controlled the ball, we picked up our intensity while keeping warnbro from gaining anymore momentum. our starts are really hurting us during games like this luckily for the moment at least theres another week to play.

on a side note can anyone from warnbro let me know how the guy in the reserves who left in the Ambulance is? it looked nasty and I hope he will be ok.

Hi Clarkson14,
The young fella was a Colt backing up to help the Ressies. Had X-Rays and spinal checks at Royal Perth and everything looks OK, but has to go back in a couple weeks. Reckons he was very sore yesterday, and probably will be for a few more.
I left just after quarter time in the Ressies game so can't make any judgements on what occurred, but the Warnbro umpire was not our regular guy, as he is away in England watching the cricket. Apparently he and the umpy who did the Colts are from Freo way, and are helping out over past couple of weeks. That all being said, from what I heard back at the Club that evening, he didn't believe it was safe to continue?? And I heard differing views on the bump on the young fella also. So like you said it will be interesting to see what transpires??

Interesting take on the reserves umpiring clarko

The fellow taken to the hospital was the one that you reckon the umpire says "just got hurt" and thats why he gave a yellow card. The umpire that gave the card was not in charge... your umpire who was did not make a call, so the second bloke who wasn't blind stepped in when he saw the high contact. not unreasonable and hence the yellow not red?

Anyway after a few hours in hospital he was cleared of anything serious. no-one thought there was any malice in the bump.

I have to disagree with your version of the second incident though. The second umpire again in best position to see the high tackle from front on to the contest made the call and made it first. The bloke a couple of metres away again missed the high tackle that left the bloke on the ground and requiring support staff to help him off, called holding the ball. When the second umpire pointed out what he saw the first ump would not listen and resented the other umpire interfering. I gather they had already diagreed on a few calls and talking to the umpire who walked off later, he said he believed that your umpire was not willing or able to control the game. In effect he called the game for safety reasons and took off.

Whether or not we agree with his actions...I don't see how you can ignore the umpires call and play on?

As you say, should be interesting to see what the League do.

Couple of facts: The umpires we supplied for the colts and ressies weree not club umpires - panel umps from elsewhere.
Free kick count to the 40 minutes up to half time (less about 8 minutes stoppage)..... ours - 5 kicks to kenwick and 6 to Warmbro.....yours 12 kicks to Kenwick and 1 to Warnbro.

Interseting stats for a side clearly winning easily.Maybe your guy could position himself better at contests?

Anyway, I agree that games should not be decided like this. You would think that 2 umpires supposedly without bias could get along a bit better with each other?

Queens town wrote: Interesting take on the reserves umpiring clarko

The fellow taken to the hospital was the one that you reckon the umpire says "just got hurt" and thats why he gave a yellow card. The umpire that gave the card was not in charge... your umpire who was did not make a call, so the second bloke who wasn't blind stepped in when he saw the high contact. not unreasonable and hence the yellow not red?

Anyway after a few hours in hospital he was cleared of anything serious. no-one thought there was any malice in the bump.

I have to disagree with your version of the second incident though. The second umpire again in best position to see the high tackle from front on to the contest made the call and made it first. The bloke a couple of metres away again missed the high tackle that left the bloke on the ground and requiring support staff to help him off, called holding the ball. When the second umpire pointed out what he saw the first ump would not listen and resented the other umpire interfering. I gather they had already diagreed on a few calls and talking to the umpire who walked off later, he said he believed that your umpire was not willing or able to control the game. In effect he called the game for safety reasons and took off.

Whether or not we agree with his actions...I don't see how you can ignore the umpires call and play on?

As you say, should be interesting to see what the League do.

Couple of facts: The umpires we supplied for the colts and ressies weree not club umpires - panel umps from elsewhere.
Free kick count to the 40 minutes up to half time (less about 8 minutes stoppage)..... ours - 5 kicks to kenwick and 6 to Warmbro.....yours 12 kicks to Kenwick and 1 to Warnbro.

Interseting stats for a side clearly winning easily.Maybe your guy could position himself better at contests?

Anyway, I agree that games should not be decided like this. You would think that 2 umpires supposedly without bias could get along a bit better with each other?

I don't disagree with the card mate i was just going off what the player sent off was told, or at least what he relayed to us and hadn't heard of that being a rule but if it was for a high hit that makes more sense. as for the other call i was only going off what i saw from the sideline we couldn't hear the exchange between the umpires and only got our umps version as the other ump had left. I actually had thought the game was being officiated very well i just have never seen an umpire walk off before.

I thought I may as well throw in my two cents as I was out there playing and was somewhat involved in the first incident.

Firstly I believe this game was was being played in excellent spirt. Both teams going extremely hard and fair at the footy. With a few other good hard bumps and tackles being laid.

To the first incident. I was directly in front of this as the warnbro young fella was about to side step me. Which isn't to hard as I'm one of the bigger blokes out there. Unfortunately the young bloke he didn't see the kenwick player to his right at all. So as he sidestepped he actually stepped into the royal as he went to bump. My view on the bump was that the royal player was tucked in (elbows down) connected with mostly the body but the top of his shoulder collected the warnbro players jaw. So a solid bloke with a big bump on the skinner bloke not at all expecting it resulted in such a big hit. The wicker was the first player on the field to warnbro's side and to wave help to the bench. The umpire that gave the card said to out huddle that the bump was reckless not intentional. So therefore yellow card not red. I believe that was the right call but don't know who was the controlling umpire. There was no fighting as I think all players saw there was no malice.

I didn't catch everything bout the umpire leaving but I don't think it was because the game was out of control as I don't think it was. I did hear the umpires arguing wether it was holding the ball or high. Both saying they were right and warnbro's umpire said F this I'm outta here. I didn't see the tackle to have a opinion on who was right. I know our umpire isn't afl level but whose is. He hasn't lost control of a game and although not the best he is consistent. And I'm sure all clubs know how hard it is to find umpires.

Also just wandering why warnbro didn't want play out the game any way with our league ump putting his hand up?? Even if they scrapped the last half scores at a later stage. Was that a players call or didn't you fellas have a choice??

Any way it was certainly a new experience and I hope the young fella pulls up quick.

Spot on bundy......that was exactly as we saw it hence none of the crap that usually follows these things. Good hard bump on unsuspecting bloke that unintentionally ended up high......umps will always give yellow as they should cos you have to look after the head....but nothing more to be said

As for any "decision" to play or not...this was by officials and i can genuinely say we believed that as the umpire had already called the game he had already taken things out of our hands......in other words to ignore his decision would send a terrible message .... And how would your league umpire explain to the waafl how he came to officiate in a game that had already been abandoned?

The players had nothing to do with it

Anyway a pity to spoil a good day at the footy....as you say all three games played in good spirit