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Nisbett/Gillon 10 years 8 months ago #51420

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joan trieste wrote: Alcohol and tobacco are two of the most dangerous substances you can expose yourself to on a regular basis. It is estimated that smoking causes 40 percent of all hospital illnesses whilst alcohol is involved in more than 50 percent of all visits to hospital emergency rooms.


and the non sequitur winner of the year is . . .


If you cannot see the connection to the previous point go back to sleep .


There is ABSOLUTELY NO CONNECTION between BH's comment and yours. Notwithstanding the non sequitur, your statistics came from what source and what is the Eagles' responsibility for, I presume, reducing these alcohol and tobacco problems?


And what is the correlation between BH's comment and the topic?


Firstly, thank you for accepting that your comments were totally unrelated to those made by BH. The connection between BH's comments and the topic is quite simple. There was a quote saying that something needed to be done to address the decrease in attendances juxtaposed with the inaction during the years where there was a drug culture at the Eagles.


My comment was in response to BH's, you should accept that. The point i was trying to make is what constitutes a drug culture? Alcohol and smoking have a far greater impact on our society and health than the drugs that a few players at the eagles (and probably every other club) were dabbling with 10 years ago and should be acknowledged as one of the dominant parts of our drug culture. That really should not be too hard to decipher. Just as the poor crowds are probably related to the poor playing form of the club. What the crowd figures has to do with Nisbett not knowing about the private lives of some players i am not sure.


Where does one start. Firstly, 8 of the Eagles' players when interviewed by your coach admitted to indulging in non-legal drugs. How anyone can say that there was not sufficient circumstantial evidence to suggest that the Eagles' hierarchy were not aware to the possibility is deluding themselves. Thirdly, tobacco and alcohol are not illegal drugs and it is disingenuous in the extreme to try to included them in a discussion about illicit drugs.


Where does one start. It is disingenuous in the extreme and negligent to not include alcohol in a discussion about a drug culture of an A.F.L club or our society in general because it is one of the dominant parts. One in eight deaths of Australians aged under 25 is now related to alcohol consumption and one in 5 hospitalisations of people under 25 are due to alcohol according to the Australian National Council on Drugs.

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Nisbett/Gillon 10 years 8 months ago #51443

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joan trieste wrote:

swan42 wrote:

joan trieste wrote:

swan42 wrote:

joan trieste wrote:

swan42 wrote:

joan trieste wrote:

swan42 wrote:

joan trieste wrote: Alcohol and tobacco are two of the most dangerous substances you can expose yourself to on a regular basis. It is estimated that smoking causes 40 percent of all hospital illnesses whilst alcohol is involved in more than 50 percent of all visits to hospital emergency rooms.


and the non sequitur winner of the year is . . .


If you cannot see the connection to the previous point go back to sleep .


There is ABSOLUTELY NO CONNECTION between BH's comment and yours. Notwithstanding the non sequitur, your statistics came from what source and what is the Eagles' responsibility for, I presume, reducing these alcohol and tobacco problems?


And what is the correlation between BH's comment and the topic?


Firstly, thank you for accepting that your comments were totally unrelated to those made by BH. The connection between BH's comments and the topic is quite simple. There was a quote saying that something needed to be done to address the decrease in attendances juxtaposed with the inaction during the years where there was a drug culture at the Eagles.


My comment was in response to BH's, you should accept that. The point i was trying to make is what constitutes a drug culture? Alcohol and smoking have a far greater impact on our society and health than the drugs that a few players at the eagles (and probably every other club) were dabbling with 10 years ago and should be acknowledged as one of the dominant parts of our drug culture. That really should not be too hard to decipher. Just as the poor crowds are probably related to the poor playing form of the club. What the crowd figures has to do with Nisbett not knowing about the private lives of some players i am not sure.


Where does one start. Firstly, 8 of the Eagles' players when interviewed by your coach admitted to indulging in non-legal drugs. How anyone can say that there was not sufficient circumstantial evidence to suggest that the Eagles' hierarchy were not aware to the possibility is deluding themselves. Thirdly, tobacco and alcohol are not illegal drugs and it is disingenuous in the extreme to try to included them in a discussion about illicit drugs.


Where does one start. It is disingenuous in the extreme and negligent to not include alcohol in a discussion about a drug culture of an A.F.L club or our society in general because it is one of the dominant parts. One in eight deaths of Australians aged under 25 is now related to alcohol consumption and one in 5 hospitalisations of people under 25 are due to alcohol according to the Australian National Council on Drugs.


A complete non sequitur JT. Absolutely nothing to do with BH's comments. It didn't have any relevance when you first made the comments and equally irrelevant now.

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