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Hawthorn fallout- Fagan steps down will Clarko be next? 1 week 2 days ago #222664

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You’ve got me wondering now DD.  Can you list the names of those blokes that were drafted, or would you rather not?
2x25= Seinor and Michael = 1xBrian Peake

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Hawthorn fallout- Fagan steps down will Clarko be next? 1 week 2 days ago #222666

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2013 draft.

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Hawthorn fallout- Fagan steps down will Clarko be next? 1 week 2 days ago #222672

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Got it.  Let’s hope it the real story comes out…not the story the press want to print.  One point though, whatever happens, the 2 coaches have mud on them and some will stick.
2x25= Seinor and Michael = 1xBrian Peake

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Hawthorn fallout- Fagan steps down will Clarko be next? 1 week 1 day ago #222677

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All this BS is going to far, throwing allegations out there, time and time again we are seeing this trial by media BS, and pandering to keep and be seen to keep the woke mob happy, all about getting a big payout at the end.

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All this BS is going to far, throwing allegations out there, time and time again we are seeing this trial by media BS, and pandering to keep and be seen to keep the woke mob happy, all about getting a big payout at the end.
You can’t be serious Bazza calling this as trial by media, keeping the woke mob happy and they are in it for the money??? Cyril Rioli walked away from an AFL salary at the age of 28 because of this stuff. Way too soon don’t you think to the detriment of his bank account. 

As I’ve said already, this has come out as a result of Hawthorn’s own enquiry stemming from Cyril Rioli speaking out about why he left and retired prematurely. These players probably never had the courage to come forward before and to this date they remain anonymous. I’d say it’s going to be hard for them to remain anonymous as this new AFL investigation takes it’s course.

In the meantime a couple of coaches have enjoyed all the plaudits and trappings that come with success but at who’s expense? This is just the tip of the iceberg, you wait until ALL clubs are subjected to this style of enquiry, there will be many more stories like these to come out and not just from indigenous former players. 

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Hawthorn fallout- Fagan steps down will Clarko be next? 1 week 1 day ago #222679

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I agree with parts of what Bazza said, I hate that individuals have had mud thrown at them without the right of reply. The journo who broke the story claims he gave Fagan 24hrs to respond but I have little or no respect or faith in journo's given past performances by some. The fact that they can name individuals before the full AFL process has even begun is in my opinion disturbing, it leads to the same situation that the wokes and Mee2 brigades love and thats wanting to turn the ideal of innocent until proven guilty on it's head, if these groups feel some wrong doing, they want us all to believe the person they named is automatically guilty because they've said so. If individuals turn out to be guilty, then throw the book, the kitchen sink and anything else hand at them, but until proof of guilt, individuals should not be named. By all means identify the club and broadly outline the allegations, but thats where it should rest until there is proof one way or the other. 

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Hawthorn fallout- Fagan steps down will Clarko be next? 1 week 1 day ago #222682

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That's all good and well SS but Hawthorn Football Club would had to have been named anyway and everyone knew they were conducting their own external review of past indigenous players so it wouldn't have been too hard to join the dots and journos would have had a field day over the speculation.

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I agree with parts of what Bazza said, I hate that individuals have had mud thrown at them without the right of reply. The journo who broke the story claims he gave Fagan 24hrs to respond but I have little or no respect or faith in journo's given past performances by some. The fact that they can name individuals before the full AFL process has even begun is in my opinion disturbing, it leads to the same situation that the wokes and Mee2 brigades love and thats wanting to turn the ideal of innocent until proven guilty on it's head, if these groups feel some wrong doing, they want us all to believe the person they named is automatically guilty because they've said so. If individuals turn out to be guilty, then throw the book, the kitchen sink and anything else hand at them, but until proof of guilt, individuals should not be named. By all means identify the club and broadly outline the allegations, but thats where it should rest until there is proof one way or the other. 
ABC have form for this and they also have form for getting it wrong, it's to late now as you say damage is done, and that's exactly what they want to happen, the constant hyper ventalation about Aboriginal issues is over the top, the AFL is basically do back flips and contortions each season trying to keep this mob happy to the point of ad nausem repetition. There would also be some left wing political  motivation here to add to the big national state enforced guilt trip to vote yes to the vacum, (voice). 
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Excellent point Bazza.

“There would also be some left wing political  motivation here to add to the big national state enforced guilt trip to vote yes to the vacum, (voice).”

This issue has come out at a very opportunistic time for Elbows and his woke brigade wanting to do a snow job on us.
2x25= Seinor and Michael = 1xBrian Peake
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Hawthorn fallout- Fagan steps down will Clarko be next? 1 week 17 hours ago #222729

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may or may not have been good enough on the field but was an absolute ‘all-star’ off the field 

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