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The establishment of the AFL was extremely Vic centric.

VFL players at the time were allowed to have their games played for their local club (Carlton etc) included in their AFL games. WAFL and SNAFL players were not.

All medals in the AFL were carried over from the VFL. No fresh start like the Barrasi medal, the Cable medal and the Farmer (Ken Farmer kicked 1417 goals for North Adelaide) medal.

The initial AFL (officially started in 1990 I am pretty sure) had 10 Victorian teams and 4 non Victorian teams; Sydney, Brisbane, West Coast and Adelaide. This is marginally better now with 10 and 8 but still far too many Vic teams in comparison the rest of the comp.

We the football followers have vfl legends rammed down our throat all the time. I don't know if you remember when Ted Whitten died - but there was a three page spread in the West Australian newspaper. Yet I never heard of the guy until I started watching the AFL (btw when Brisbane won 3 in a row). Yet do we the Australian football public even know a guy called Ken Farmer (1417 goals for North Adelaide in the SANFL - I just had to look it up because I have never heard of him). This is how the vfl have set it up. We all know Ted but none of us know Ken.

The travel load of the West/South Aussie teams is disgraceful compared to the Vic teams. Again this is set up by Victorian (afl administrators) because they keep ensuring there are 10 teams in Victoria.

Should be 6 teams from vic and 2 from the other major states for a 14 team comp playing the other 13 teams twice (once at each other’s home deck)for a 26 round home and away season.

Either all ex state league players games included in AFL stats or none.

New medals.

Not another $ for struggling Vic clubs.

"Victorians still laugh at West Aussies because of the way we bailed out the vfl and then allowed it to be called it the AFL!”

We gave them $4mill (back when $4 mill was worth something) which helped bail them out and then allowed all the above to happen and they made us think they were doing us a favour.

I suggest:
Gold Coast Kangaroos (Kangaroos jumper and song)
West Sydney Bulldogs (Footscray’s jumper and song)
Melbourne Blues (Blues jumpers and Song)
Port Adelaide Falcons (with St Kilda jumper). Port must appeal to more than original Port Adelaide supporters. Saint’s back to the VFL


This would leave 14 teams playing the other 13 teams twice for a 26 week home and away season.
All games would be block busters.
No more WA or SA teams playing Hawthorn in Tassie.
Hawks should play Vic teams in Tassie, 5 times a year.
Essendon should play Vic teams in Canberra again 5 times a year.
Make the bastards travel.

Lastly all remaining 14 teams should have a reserve side and squads of 60 and local state leagues should be pushed with advertising. Everyone to have a national team that they support and a local team they support.

And West Coast should be called Perth. Then people from overseas can see, Melbourne v Adelaide v Perth v Brisbane v Sydney followed by strong regional areas.

Time For a Flag wrote: The establishment of the AFL was extremely Vic centric.

VFL players at the time were allowed to have their games played for their local club (Carlton etc) included in their AFL games. WAFL and SNAFL players were not.

All medals in the AFL were carried over from the VFL. No fresh start like the Barrasi medal, the Cable medal and the Farmer (Ken Farmer kicked 1417 goals for North Adelaide) medal.

The initial AFL (officially started in 1990 I am pretty sure) had 10 Victorian teams and 4 non Victorian teams; Sydney, Brisbane, West Coast and Adelaide. This is marginally better now with 10 and 8 but still far too many Vic teams in comparison the rest of the comp.

We the football followers have vfl legends rammed down our throat all the time. I don't know if you remember when Ted Whitten died - but there was a three page spread in the West Australian newspaper. Yet I never heard of the guy until I started watching the AFL (btw when Brisbane won 3 in a row). Yet do we the Australian football public even know a guy called Ken Farmer (1417 goals for North Adelaide in the SANFL - I just had to look it up because I have never heard of him). This is how the vfl have set it up. We all know Ted but none of us know Ken.

The travel load of the West/South Aussie teams is disgraceful compared to the Vic teams. Again this is set up by Victorian (afl administrators) because they keep ensuring there are 10 teams in Victoria.

Should be 6 teams from vic and 2 from the other major states for a 14 team comp playing the other 13 teams twice (once at each other’s home deck)for a 26 round home and away season.

Either all ex state league players games included in AFL stats or none.

New medals.

Not another $ for struggling Vic clubs.

"Victorians still laugh at West Aussies because of the way we bailed out the vfl and then allowed it to be called it the AFL!”

We gave them $4mill (back when $4 mill was worth something) which helped bail them out and then allowed all the above to happen and they made us think they were doing us a favour.

I suggest:
Gold Coast Kangaroos (Kangaroos jumper and song)
West Sydney Bulldogs (Footscray’s jumper and song)
Melbourne Blues (Blues jumpers and Song)
Port Adelaide Falcons (with St Kilda jumper). Port must appeal to more than original Port Adelaide supporters. Saint’s back to the VFL


This would leave 14 teams playing the other 13 teams twice for a 26 week home and away season.
All games would be block busters.
No more WA or SA teams playing Hawthorn in Tassie.
Hawks should play Vic teams in Tassie, 5 times a year.
Essendon should play Vic teams in Canberra again 5 times a year.
Make the bastards travel.

Lastly all remaining 14 teams should have a reserve side and squads of 60 and local state leagues should be pushed with advertising. Everyone to have a national team that they support and a local team they support.

And West Coast should be called Perth. Then people from overseas can see, Melbourne v Adelaide v Perth v Brisbane v Sydney followed by strong regional areas.

Great post TFAF, luv the way you thnk.
West Coast called Perth ? Does that mean the WAFL has finally found the Perth FC guilty of impersonating a football club and remove them from the comp, or have they changed their name to Innaloo demons

Yep good input.. Will never happen of course as the AFL IMO is still considered a Victorian comp and based there. They wont allow it to change

Before the Bounce - Nasty Nasty.

Cardy wrote: Yep good input.. Will never happen of course as the AFL IMO is still considered a Victorian comp and based there. They wont allow it to change

Before the Bounce - Nasty Nasty.

Sorry Cardy best I could do this morning

anchorman wrote: Not sure what he is on can be good for you.

Now, now anchor....you're the first to jump on someone when they respond to your posts in this manner
Anyway, he's spot on - it is and will always be Vic owned and run for the Vics benefit. I'm over the traveling thing tho, most clubs seem to be getting it down pat now.

another WA football follower with a chip on the shoulder!!

i could imagine the hypocrypsy if by hypothetically speaking the competition that is now AFL came to be from the WAFL, rather than the VFL. I could see all the TFAF's of the world copping it for being like a footscray/western bulldog, Melbourne, S kilda or until recently the Geelongs of the world.
There would be a angry Victorian going on about the failure of the Perth football club in the last 30 odd years and they shouldn't be in the comp etc....
Bet then he would shut his mouth!!