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Senior Seagull wrote: When we talk about Joe Biden being left wing, that equates to a slightly right of centre Liberal in Australia, the normal republican is about 1000 miles to the right of Attila the Hun. A steady careful hand like Joe might just be what a shattered disorganised divided USA needs.

I don't think you know what left wing is Senior. It's BIG government, Handouts and the breakdown of tradition. Ends up in misery. Soviet Russia, Cuba, Venezuela, Pol Pots Cambodia and current Seattle. Wouldn't even wish it on the likes of yourself, Ti and Jack. Think long and hard boys. The Democrats taking a hold in the US will see its demise. The demise of the US wont be good for the world. There would be a scramble for power and thickhead punks will take over. Not the smart ones like Trotsky but the dumb punks like Stalin.

Because the US became so much better when Bush took over from Clinton.

And look how marvellous it is today, since the Bloated Orange Bullshitter took over from Obama.

Comparing the Soviet, Cuba, Pol Pot etc etc to the US Dems is a good measure of your intellect TFaF.

Jack the Democrats of the Clinton era and of course previous to that is a lot different to the current up and comers in the Democrat Party, you are taking from my writings what you want to not what is intended, try not to do that sort of thing in discourse - it will serve you. Take away Sleepy Joe, Chuck and Nasty Nancy and the party slips away in to Woke anti american haters. Sleepy Joe wont last 6 months if elected. He will be put out to pasture.

TFaF, what should I take away from, eg

- comparing a Democrat led US to the Soviet Union, Cuba, Venezuela and Pol Pot's Cambodia?

- thickhead and dumb punks?

- Stalin?

The Democratic Party has more than 280 members of Congress, yet you are trying to ascribe the values of probably less than 10 of them to the entire party. And as SS said earlier, Biden would be right of centre in Oz politics, as would most of the other Dems in Congress.

If you want a taste of US-style Socialism, look how much Trump has given to the farmers during Trump's self-declared trade war with China. Also have a look at how much of his Covid relief package went to BIG Business in the US.

I reckon I have good a pretty good handle on your discourse - or were you just being excessively hyperbolic? I also note that you passed over the outcomes since Obama passed over to Trump.

Thanks JS, you said it all. What the Yanks call left wing is at the worst comparable to a centralist liberal in Australia. The yanks would consider Austalian Labour as extreme left wing socialists/communists.

Senior Seagull wrote: Thanks JS, you said it all. What the Yanks call left wing is at the worst comparable to a centralist liberal in Australia. The yanks would consider Austalian Labour as extreme left wing socialists/communists.

So do I...

Another shooting of an unarmed black man overnight by the cops this time in Atlanta. FMD...America is rooted.

Bit more to this one BC.

Apparently the shot guy had grabbed a Taser from one of the cops,and had pointed it at the cops.

That was part of it jack...he failed a sobriety test and resisted arrest. In doing so he grappled with the cops and managed to grab one of their tasers. He took off and while he was running fired it at a chasing cop and that's when he was shot in the back whilst fleeing. The cops then took over 2 minutes to put on gloves and pick up spent shells before rendering assistance.

Why aren't these cops taught to shoot the legs or arms, somewhere non-lethal, given they knew this guy only had a taser, not a real gun.