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BH, too: a good player clark; played a key position as well, in a weak side up to that point. Guthrie, also from that side, sadly died in the war.

ArkRoyal wrote: BH, too: a good player clark; played a key position as well, in a weak side up to that point. Guthrie, also from that side, sadly died in the war.

Yes sadly AR we lost far too many good WA men & top WAFL footballers during the wars.
Could you imagine that happening today it is unfathomable.

My parents used to talk about the young men/footballers who never made it back from the madness.

BH, if Trump gets back in along with that despot who runs China plus the mad manipulator Putin, is not that unfathomable sadly.

BH,SS-- yep, even the poor buggers whom got back sufferred:

lou daily -- jap prison camp
keith miller -- bomber command -- highest casualty rate of any allied service
hugh guthrie -- a family friend (whom served with him) had guthries' picture on his television until he died

SD, from memory dropped out of the league for a couple of seasons, because the club ran out of players. the black and whites did their bit for king, country and empire, that is for sure. Did this also happen to the M-J club after WWI? The amazing thing about that generation, as you know, was that, it continued to volunteer to go to France, even as it read the casualty rates on the Somme in the paper. I cannot imagine the youth of today doing it. Can you,'bease'?

BH: about the wars, I agree, the two together, were wars to end all wars, as they had hoped in 1919. However, the great powers -- Russia, US, China -- will continue to fight each other by proxies.

latest examples:

Formosa -- biden will have a dilemma here if he wins; by law he has to defend it-- unless he gets congress to change the law
Syria -- Billary would have continued the war here, the Democrats are not peace lovers
Yugoslavia

ArkRoyal wrote: BH,SS-- yep, even the poor buggers whom got back sufferred:

lou daily -- jap prison camp
keith miller -- bomber command -- highest casualty rate of any allied service
hugh guthrie -- a family friend (whom served with him) had guthries' picture on his television until he died

SD, from memory dropped out of the league for a couple of seasons, because the club ran out of players. the black and whites did their bit for king, country and empire, that is for sure. Did this also happen to the M-J club after WWI? The amazing thing about that generation, as you know, was that, it continued to volunteer to go to France, even as it read the casualty rates on the Somme in the paper. I cannot imagine the youth of today doing it. Can you,'bease'?

On the highlighted yes that is true AR both the current SD and the original incarnation of the area Midland Junction were decimated during the 2 World Wars. MJ never recovered as we know AR whilst thankfully SD did manage to get back to WAFL footy after not being able to field a team in 1942. The Swan area being largely working class had a huge influx of young men (and women) leave to serve their country and some who unfortunately never came back. AR did you know the army took possession of the McDonald Stand for a time in the early 1940s?

As for todays youth AR I dont blame them to be honest.
When will the world ever learn to just all get on as we are not all here for that long in the scheme of things!

P.S- mate I miss our private conversations on the good ol days!

BH -- thanks for the post mate; I was unaware the ADF had taken over the famous grandstand during the war, demonstrating once again, how much the war affected people. It is true, too, bease, as you wrote, that the working class tends to be patriotic -- something the ALP misses these days

None of the fellows were warmongers though, most joined up only after the fall of France, which was reasonable; they feared a German victory. I think the world gets on a little better -- it not that hard as you said -- and the threat of mutual destruction will prevent the big wars.

I also really miss our private conversations, hopefully one day, the PM function will be restored on the site.