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Swans vs Subiaco at Bassendean Oval 3 years 7 months ago #191350

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gtrxuone wrote: Swans v Subi and the same old same old.Subi by plenty.Swans where slaughtered in the key positions down the spine.And when the ball went through there we gave away holding the man frees.
Swans tried the use the width of the field with run and spread.Switching play across the center of the ground.But Subi congested the flank areas and stop swans movement. They did look good when they could get into the open fwd line with George Hampson looking good up there.
The shortened qtrs probably saved swans from a hiding today.ConnorB looks like he's got a lower back injury Tony N also looks like he's injured Down on big men and mids that can run with the footy..Long season in this short season..
Just an observation on Subi.Only there second game in August.Did cough up the footy a few times.And heard some of there players sledging each other. On the outer bank.Played well but the players on field must think they can play better than they did today.


GTR did you mean Doc? Connor Blakely is his brother.

BC we always have good kids come through like Grainger-Barrass but they get drafted and spend 10+ years in the vfl and we dont get any real benefit of it for the SDFC in the WAFL aside from a few games when they are 17/18!
We will probably lose another 3-4 again this year including DGB and have to start all over again in putting a side together, it is a never ending cycle!

Yes correct BH.He can't bend down and pick up the footy.Swans over posess the footy and move the ball very slowly around the ground.Gault has to be permanent FF.We have to take the game on through the middle of the ground.
Kicking 6 or 7 goals a game isn't going to win us many games of footy.Do believe losing 5 minutes + a quarter the red zone hearts us also.

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Swans vs Subiaco at Bassendean Oval 3 years 7 months ago #191362

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I know I have banged on about this before but it was quite instructive to look at the warm up routines of both sides before the game yesterday. Swans had their usual "stand in a line and kick to a moving target" routine with a bit of centre square practice for the midfielders. Subiaco broke up into groups of 6 and did some simulated 'mini game' type pressure scenarios which forced them to execute their skills under pressure. This would no doubt be a microcosm of what they do at training and I'm sure this stuff would assist them when they are under the pump in a game situation.

Surely the Swans coaches would have observed this routine and given that some of our guys couldn't hit a barn door with a 30 metre kick surely they could incorporate some of what Subiaco do into the training. To improve we need to learn from the best.

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Swans vs Subiaco at Bassendean Oval 3 years 7 months ago #191372

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Beasley Hutton wrote:

gtrxuone wrote: Swans v Subi and the same old same old.Subi by plenty.Swans where slaughtered in the key positions down the spine.And when the ball went through there we gave away holding the man frees.
Swans tried the use the width of the field with run and spread.Switching play across the center of the ground.But Subi congested the flank areas and stop swans movement. They did look good when they could get into the open fwd line with George Hampson looking good up there.
The shortened qtrs probably saved swans from a hiding today.ConnorB looks like he's got a lower back injury Tony N also looks like he's injured Down on big men and mids that can run with the footy..Long season in this short season..
Just an observation on Subi.Only there second game in August.Did cough up the footy a few times.And heard some of there players sledging each other. On the outer bank.Played well but the players on field must think they can play better than they did today.


GTR did you mean Doc? Connor Blakely is his brother.

BC we always have good kids come through like Grainger-Barrass but they get drafted and spend 10+ years in the vfl and we dont get any real benefit of it for the SDFC in the WAFL aside from a few games when they are 17/18!
We will probably lose another 3-4 again this year including DGB and have to start all over again in putting a side together, it is a never ending cycle!


The WAFC should look at increasing the salary cap by $10k per draftee.
At least then we would be able to offer players more as replacements or perhaps even the WAFC kick in $$ towards the transfer fees of replacements.

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Swans vs Subiaco at Bassendean Oval 3 years 7 months ago #191373

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mikeh wrote: I know I have banged on about this before but it was quite instructive to look at the warm up routines of both sides before the game yesterday. Swans had their usual "stand in a line and kick to a moving target" routine with a bit of centre square practice for the midfielders. Subiaco broke up into groups of 6 and did some simulated 'mini game' type pressure scenarios which forced them to execute their skills under pressure. This would no doubt be a microcosm of what they do at training and I'm sure this stuff would assist them when they are under the pump in a game situation.

Surely the Swans coaches would have observed this routine and given that some of our guys couldn't hit a barn door with a 30 metre kick surely they could incorporate some of what Subiaco do into the training. To improve we need to learn from the best.


Subi do a lot of match simulation at training. One of their core standards is no
U turns. In the game you will always see a player facing the wrong way give off the ball to a team mate running towards their goal.
Swans prefer to kick around corners.
It comes down to coaching and we play the way we train - poorly.

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Swans vs Subiaco at Bassendean Oval 3 years 7 months ago #191376

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Could be round 6 before the club records a win with either of the sides.

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Swans vs Subiaco at Bassendean Oval 3 years 7 months ago #191380

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therealswansman wrote:

mikeh wrote: I know I have banged on about this before but it was quite instructive to look at the warm up routines of both sides before the game yesterday. Swans had their usual "stand in a line and kick to a moving target" routine with a bit of centre square practice for the midfielders. Subiaco broke up into groups of 6 and did some simulated 'mini game' type pressure scenarios which forced them to execute their skills under pressure. This would no doubt be a microcosm of what they do at training and I'm sure this stuff would assist them when they are under the pump in a game situation.

Surely the Swans coaches would have observed this routine and given that some of our guys couldn't hit a barn door with a 30 metre kick surely they could incorporate some of what Subiaco do into the training. To improve we need to learn from the best.


Subi do a lot of match simulation at training. One of their core standards is no
U turns. In the game you will always see a player facing the wrong way give off the ball to a team mate running towards their goal.
Swans prefer to kick around corners.
It comes down to coaching and we play the way we train - poorly.

I was at this game as a neutral. During the second qtr I was standing behind the Subi interchange area and Kyle Horsley was waiting to come back on. He was yelling “be predictable” several times to players on the ground and directly to Leigh Kitchin when he came off basically gave him a bit of a spray for not giving the handball to a team mate as he came off the ground.

He obviously wasn’t referring to being predictable to the opposition up but to each other. It was an interesting little insight to what makes this club tick. They drive each other hard to high standards and accept nothing less.
Get on your bike.

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therealswansman wrote:

mikeh wrote: I know I have banged on about this before but it was quite instructive to look at the warm up routines of both sides before the game yesterday. Swans had their usual "stand in a line and kick to a moving target" routine with a bit of centre square practice for the midfielders. Subiaco broke up into groups of 6 and did some simulated 'mini game' type pressure scenarios which forced them to execute their skills under pressure. This would no doubt be a microcosm of what they do at training and I'm sure this stuff would assist them when they are under the pump in a game situation.

Surely the Swans coaches would have observed this routine and given that some of our guys couldn't hit a barn door with a 30 metre kick surely they could incorporate some of what Subiaco do into the training. To improve we need to learn from the best.


Subi do a lot of match simulation at training. One of their core standards is no
U turns. In the game you will always see a player facing the wrong way give off the ball to a team mate running towards their goal.
Swans prefer to kick around corners.
It comes down to coaching and we play the way we train - poorly.

I was at this game as a neutral. During the second qtr I was standing behind the Subi interchange area and Kyle Horsley was waiting to come back on. He was yelling “be predictable” several times to players on the ground and directly to Leigh Kitchin when he came off basically gave him a bit of a spray for not giving the handball to a team mate as he came off the ground.

He obviously wasn’t referring to being predictable to the opposition up but to each other. It was an interesting little insight to what makes this club tick. They drive each other hard to high standards and accept nothing less.

DD I also heard the fwds spraying the midfielders in the second half.For not putting there heads up looking for long leads up fwd.

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Swans vs Subiaco at Bassendean Oval 3 years 7 months ago #191391

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therealswansman wrote:

mikeh wrote: I know I have banged on about this before but it was quite instructive to look at the warm up routines of both sides before the game yesterday. Swans had their usual "stand in a line and kick to a moving target" routine with a bit of centre square practice for the midfielders. Subiaco broke up into groups of 6 and did some simulated 'mini game' type pressure scenarios which forced them to execute their skills under pressure. This would no doubt be a microcosm of what they do at training and I'm sure this stuff would assist them when they are under the pump in a game situation.

Surely the Swans coaches would have observed this routine and given that some of our guys couldn't hit a barn door with a 30 metre kick surely they could incorporate some of what Subiaco do into the training. To improve we need to learn from the best.


Subi do a lot of match simulation at training. One of their core standards is no
U turns. In the game you will always see a player facing the wrong way give off the ball to a team mate running towards their goal.
Swans prefer to kick around corners.
It comes down to coaching and we play the way we train - poorly.

I was at this game as a neutral. During the second qtr I was standing behind the Subi interchange area and Kyle Horsley was waiting to come back on. He was yelling “be predictable” several times to players on the ground and directly to Leigh Kitchin when he came off basically gave him a bit of a spray for not giving the handball to a team mate as he came off the ground.

He obviously wasn’t referring to being predictable to the opposition up but to each other. It was an interesting little insight to what makes this club tick. They drive each other hard to high standards and accept nothing less.


Spot on DD. Wardman is called the coach but all he does is prepare the players by giving them as much information as possible for the game each week. Apparently he is very detailed, thorough and professional but it's the senior players who drive the standards and work ethic not the coaches.

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Swans vs Subiaco at Bassendean Oval 3 years 7 months ago #191393

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And there's me thinking it was Subi's money driving these Subi boys high standards and work ethic...finally some sense prevails....

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Swans vs Subiaco at Bassendean Oval 3 years 7 months ago #191405

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Freezin wrote: And there's me thinking it was Subi's money driving these Subi boys high standards and work ethic...finally some sense prevails....


No the money was what got them that talent there in the first place.

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