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Can it include those premierships pre 1900 to keep doggie happy?

anchorman wrote: I believe the first part of the clubs history will be published later this year.
It is already in the hands or ready to go to the printers for publication.It was due for printing at the end of January, but has been held up due to the retirement of Cicco.
The book could be ready for release in a few months.
I believe the first part will cover from 1900 to 1960.
Also believe that the second part has also been started.
Should make for good reading.

SFFC....good reading? Now there's an oxy moron!! You'll have to pop up to Moss St and ask if someone can read it to your supporters. Hope it's got a lot of pictures in it

I'm sure the real connection to the 2nd version of the fremantle football club from 1889 - 1899 will be discussed for sure mate =)

.....I certainly hope FFC/SFFC historians mention Matty Pavlich in their latest book too....the FFC/SFFC millennium chapter/connection.....surely the fella must be FFC/SFFC most celebrated captain ever, multiple A/A, F&B and leading goal kicker to boot....

anchor,I just thought since Doggie was hell bent on claiming those pre 1900 Fremantle Football club premierships for the SFFC, just thought since Pav was captain of the modern day FFC, that SFFC and FFC were still one in the same? ....thus Pav surely must be considered as a SFFC great!!

anchorman wrote: MMM Freez,I know youa re being sarcastic,but what is the relevance of Pav to Souths?Isn't he an East Fremantle listed player!!
Unless you are making reference tot he stroke of a pen flags your mob have.
We send blokes over there to teach you how to read and write Shark.

Come on now anchor, no prize for second...you can do better than that

Don't get sucked into these blokes anchor, they get a little bored over the summer and make up all kinds of claims and stories.

Freeze, do some research yourself and you will find that good ole doggie is right on the mark mate.

But I know you won't . . . what would you have a go at us about then hey? =)

Doggie in one breath you want to claim the pre 1900 success of the FFC as SFFC success, yet the modern era FFC has no connection to SFFC of today....I'm just maintaining the consistency of your argument mate......

I guess with Peel now aligning with Freo, perhaps Peel can claim those pre 1900 flags as theirs historically speaking.....what ever research you bring to the table mate will be treated with the respect it deserves....especially from us EFFC fans.

Anchor I really do think it's Doggie doing his well known party trick of How many straws can one clasp in ones hand at one time?....it's really past it's sell by date, just like those pre 1900 flags of the Fremantle Football club that Doggie keeps banging on about.

Freeze, it's pretty simple really. Very much like the Fitzroy Football Club when its links and ties went to the Brisbane Football Club so to do its history and flags.

The SFFC was born from the Fremantle Football Club. Players, admin etc. It is as simple as that, even the colours.

Don't believe me, make fun of it with "links to the Dockers (which was never said of course, but as you do often you try to belittle someones point with outlandish and intentionally void points to give anything that doeas have meaning very little.

Anyway, it is what it is hey?

From the SFFC website - History.

The Founders

The club was formed in some haste at a meeting held 20 April 1900 at the old Club Hotel - where the Orient Hotel now stands in High Street. Haste was needed because the once invinsible Fremantle Football Club that normally carried the hopes of football followers at the port was in debt and disarray.

The new season was only a month away. It was unthinkable that sport-mad Fremantle would not be represented when the season started in May so Tom O'Beirne and Griff John hatched a plan: they would simply abandon the old club and form a new one in its place. O'Beirne, publican of the Club Hotel and former president of the Fremantle Football Club, and John a young man who had played on the wing for Fremantle for the past three seasons, knew they had to move fast.

Why didn't Tom O'Beirne & Griff John save the Fremantle FC? Better still if they did...SFFC would not have existed.

Registering the club



The WA Football Association had already called for applications for new teams and was to hold its annual meeting on April 18. To beat the deadline John appointed himself secretary of the non-existent South Fremantle Football Club and applied to join the Association. Finding a name was easy because the South Fremantle Cricket Club was already doing well in the WACA competition. As it happened the Association meeting was postponed until Monday 23rd.

NEW club in SF was formed. New club, new history. Pretty simple.


The players and the committee



John and O'Beirne rounded up the Fremantle players for a meeting at the Club Hotel on the Friday night and the rest was straight forward. They already had the players, an Oval, changerooms and a trainer. They kept the Fremantle colours of red and white, and confirmed John as secretary.

Again why didn't they help keep Fremantle FC alive considering nothing really changed?


Disaster struck but the club was resurrected



Led by George 'Smiler' Wills, the new club did well in its first year, finishing runners-up. However, over the next three seasons the performance fell away badly and, in April 1904 a Fremantle newspaper confidently reported that South Fremantle would not appear again. However, the club decided to carry on and centreman Harry Hodge took over as skipper, but the season was a disaster. The club won only one game. Something had to be done, and it was.

Five members of East Fremantle's premiership eighteen were recruited to the ranks together with several Victorian players and the club surged into the top four in 1905, only to lose the semi-final. In 1906 the Southerners were minor premiers for the first time, but again lost the semi-final. Eight times in nine seasons the club would make the semi-finals, never once advancing further.

Nothing has changed.