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Interesting History of Teams moving in the US.

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Major League Baseball[edit source | edit]See also: Major League Baseball relocation of 1950s–1960s
1902: Milwaukee Brewers moved to St. Louis, Missouri and became the St. Louis Browns.
1903: Baltimore Orioles moved to New York and became the Highlanders. The team was renamed the Yankees in 1913.
1953: Boston Braves moved to Milwaukee. This was the first relocation in 50 years. During those 50 years, there had also been no expansions or contractions—Major League Baseball had consisted of the same 16 teams, 8 in each league, playing in the same 10 cities without interruption for half a century.
1954: St. Louis Browns moved to Baltimore and became the Orioles.
1955: Philadelphia Athletics moved to Kansas City, Missouri.
1958: Brooklyn Dodgers moved to Los Angeles; New York Giants moved to San Francisco. These were the first major league teams on the West Coast; the teams moved simultaneously to facilitate travel for other National League (NL) teams.
1961: Washington Senators (original) moved to the Twin Cities area and became the Minnesota Twins. Not wishing to alienate Washington, D.C. and its powerful baseball fans, the American League (AL) granted the city a new expansion franchise, also called the Senators.
1966: Milwaukee Braves moved to Atlanta, Georgia.
1968: Kansas City Athletics moved to Oakland, California. Because Charles O. Finley broke a recently signed lease and public bonds were already issued for the building of what is now known as Kauffman Stadium, Major League Baseball was in danger of anti-trust legislation from Missouri Senator Stuart Symington. As a result, the AL granted Kansas City a new expansion franchise in 1969.
1970: Seattle Pilots moved to Milwaukee and became the Brewers. The AL would grant Seattle a new expansion franchise in 1977.
1972: Washington Senators (second franchise) moved to Arlington, Texas and became the Texas Rangers.
2005: Montreal Expos moved to Washington, D.C. and became the Washington Nationals. The Expos had split time between Montreal and San Juan, Puerto Rico in 2003 and 2004. This was the first relocation in 33 years.
National Basketball Association[edit source | edit]Main article: List of relocated National Basketball Association teams
1946: Detroit Gems moved to Minneapolis and became the Lakers.
1951: Tri-Cities Blackhawks (the "Tri Cities" area is now generally referred to as the "Quad Cities") moved to Milwaukee and became the Hawks.
1955: Milwaukee Hawks moved to St. Louis.
1957: Fort Wayne Pistons moved to Detroit.
1957: Rochester Royals moved to Cincinnati.
1960: Minneapolis Lakers moved to Los Angeles.
1962: Philadelphia Warriors moved to San Francisco.
1963: Chicago Zephyrs moved to Baltimore and became the Bullets.
1963: Syracuse Nationals moved to Philadelphia and became the 76ers.
1968: St. Louis Hawks moved to Atlanta.
1971: San Diego Rockets moved to Houston.
1972: Cincinnati Royals moved to a new primary home in Kansas City and a secondary home in Omaha, and became the Kansas City-Omaha Kings. The team ceased Omaha operations in 1975.
1973: Dallas Chaparrals moved to San Antonio and became the Spurs.
1973: Baltimore Bullets moved to Washington, D.C. and were renamed the Capital Bullets. The team was renamed as the Washington Bullets in 1974 and the Wizards in 1997.
1977: One year after the ABA-NBA merger, the New York Nets became the New Jersey Nets. Although the Nets moved within the New York metropolitan area, they dramatically changed their primary market within the area. When representing New York, they played in Nassau County on Long Island; their primary fanbase then shifted to New Jersey.
1978: Buffalo Braves moved to San Diego and became the Clippers.
1979: New Orleans Jazz moved to Salt Lake City, Utah.
1984: San Diego Clippers moved to Los Angeles.
1985: Kansas City Kings moved to Sacramento, California.
2001: Vancouver Grizzlies moved to Memphis, Tennessee.
Further information: Vancouver Grizzlies relocation to Memphis
2002: Charlotte Hornets moved to New Orleans. The NBA granted Charlotte a new expansion franchise in 2004.
2005: New Orleans Hornets moved temporarily to Oklahoma City following Hurricane Katrina and became the New Orleans/Oklahoma City Hornets.
Further information: Effect of Hurricane Katrina on the New Orleans Hornets
2007: New Orleans/Oklahoma City Hornets returned to New Orleans full-time. The team was renamed as the Pelicans in 2013.
2008: Seattle SuperSonics moved to Oklahoma City and became the Thunder.
Further information: Seattle SuperSonics relocation to Oklahoma City
2012: New Jersey Nets moved to Brooklyn and became Brooklyn's first major professional sports franchise since 1957.
National Football League[edit source | edit]Main article: National Football League franchise moves and mergers
1921: Decatur Staleys moved to Chicago and became the Bears one year later.
1934: Portsmouth (Ohio) Spartans moved to Detroit and became the Lions.
1937: Boston Redskins moved to Washington, D.C.
1949: Boston Yanks moved to New York and became the Bulldogs.
1946: Cleveland Rams moved to Los Angeles.
1960: Chicago Cardinals moved to St. Louis.
1961: Los Angeles Chargers moved to San Diego.
1963: Dallas Texans moved to Kansas City after winning the AFL championship and became the Chiefs.
1982: Oakland Raiders moved to Los Angeles. The NFL refused permission for the move, but the team won the right to relocate in a court case.
1984: Baltimore Colts moved to Indianapolis. The team's offices were slipped out of Baltimore in the middle of the night to avoid a proposed eminent domain seizure by the state of Maryland.
Further information: Baltimore Colts relocation to Indianapolis
1988: St. Louis Cardinals moved to the Phoenix area, playing games in nearby Tempe. The team now plays in another Phoenix suburb, Glendale. The team was renamed the Arizona Cardinals in 1994.
1995: Los Angeles Raiders moved back to Oakland after 13 previous seasons, the first "return" relocation of a North American professional sports team. Also, the Los Angeles Rams moved to St. Louis. Since then, Los Angeles, the nation's second-largest market, has not hosted a NFL franchise.
Further information: History of the National Football League in Los Angeles
1996: Cleveland Browns moved to Baltimore and became the Ravens. The move was one of the most controversial in major professional sports history. In response to a fan revolt and legal threats, the NFL awarded a new franchise to Cleveland in 1999, which for historical purposes is considered a continuation of the original Browns franchise.
Further information: Cleveland Browns relocation controversy
1997: Houston Oilers moved to Memphis and became the Tennessee Oilers. The team originally planned to play both 1997 and 1998 in Liberty Bowl Memorial Stadium in Memphis before moving to their intended destination of Nashville. However, due to poor attendance, the team moved to Nashville in 1998, playing in Vanderbilt University's stadium. The team was renamed the Tennessee Titans in 1999, when their new stadium was opened. The NFL granted Houston a new expansion franchise in 2002.
National Hockey League[edit source | edit]Main article: List of defunct and relocated National Hockey League teams
Relocations in the NHL have been unique in that most of the teams have changed their names after relocating, as opposed to keeping their identity with the old market. Only two NHL teams that relocated—both in the pre-Original Six era and in the modern era—kept their names: the Calgary Flames and the Dallas Stars. Although the Stars were previously known as the Minnesota North Stars, the team had begun to phase "North" out of the name two years before the move to Dallas as part of the "reverse merger" of the North Stars into the Minnesota Stars and the expansion San Jose Sharks (the California Golden Seals/Cleveland Barons had "merged" with Minnesota).

The Edmonton Oilers nearly relocated in 1998 but they remained in the city after a limited partnership raised enough money to purchase the franchise before the deadline.[1] The Phoenix Coyotes were placed into bankruptcy with the intent to circumvent the league's relocation rules, but this was blocked by a judge. Other relocation threats came from two of the 1967 expansion teams, the Pittsburgh Penguins (on multiple occasions) and St. Louis Blues (in 1983), but ultimately stayed in their existing markets.

1920: Quebec Bulldogs moved to Hamilton, Ontario and became the Hamilton Tigers.
1925: Hamilton Tigers franchise was dissolved and the players rights were acquired by the expansion New York Americans.
1930: Pittsburgh Pirates moved to Philadelphia from economic pressures of the Great Depression and became the Philadelphia Quakers, lasting only until the end of the season before folding.
1934: Ottawa Senators moved to St. Louis, Missouri and became the St. Louis Eagles.
1976: California Golden Seals, which played their home games in Oakland, moved to Cleveland and became the Cleveland Barons.
1976: Kansas City Scouts moved to Denver and became the Colorado Rockies.
1978: The Barons franchise was absorbed into the Minnesota North Stars organization.
1980: Atlanta Flames moved to Calgary; Atlanta was awarded an expansion team in 1999, which subsequently moved to Winnipeg.
1982: Colorado Rockies moved to East Rutherford, New Jersey and became the New Jersey Devils.
1991: The former Barons ownership splits off from the North Stars to return to the Bay Area with the expansion San Jose Sharks, comprising half the former North Stars' roster.
1993: Minnesota North Stars moved to Dallas and became the Stars; Minnesota was awarded an expansion team in 2000.
1995: Quebec Nordiques moved to Denver and became the Colorado Avalanche.
1996: Winnipeg Jets moved to Phoenix and became the Coyotes.
1997: Hartford Whalers moved to Raleigh, North Carolina and became the Carolina Hurricanes. For two years they played home games in Greensboro while an arena was under construction in Raleigh.
2011: Atlanta Thrashers moved to Winnipeg and became the current version of the Winnipeg Jets.

Come on people lets be a bit realistic here. Some people support WC because they are from WA, and they will be going for Freo this weekend again because they are from WA.

Yes you have your team and you support them, but im betting 80%+ started supporting these teams as it was their location of upbringing/birth etc. And especially being from WA, it is a sort of us vs them mentality when it comes to a WA team and a Vic team. The people saying freo and WC are not WA team, simple.....they are. They are based in West Australia, what more do you want!!

Personally I would like to see a non victorian team win the grand final. But given that I am a west coast fan and hate the dockers. I will actually be cheering for Hawks.....and because I had a few bets on them mid season to cash in on.

What a load of crap I have seen. I'm an eagle supporter but am also a proud West Aussie and as much as it hurts seeing the dockers in the grand final I'd like to see them win one. A family member is a Carlton supporter who has lived in WA most of his life but would barrack for Collingwood if they were playing West Coast as he hates the eagles with a passion. I know if the shoe was on the other foot most of my Freo mates who hate the eagles will hope hey do well...if they are proud sandgropers.

Bulldog82 wrote: What a load of crap I have seen. I'm an eagle supporter but am also a proud West Aussie and as much as it hurts seeing the dockers in the grand final I'd like to see them win one. A family member is a Carlton supporter who has lived in WA most of his life but would barrack for Collingwood if they were playing West Coast as he hates the eagles with a passion. I know if the shoe was on the other foot most of my Freo mates who hate the eagles will hope hey do well...if they are proud sandgropers.

So you dont barrack for the Vics in the eagles side then, cos yer a proud west aussie?
I dont know one Collingwood or Blues fan who would support te other team no matter who they played. Any code in the world, ya "hate" yer next door team the most. Its NOT a state thing its a CLUB thing.

Bazza wrote: yeah you are spot on Swan, they are exactly that AFL franchises based here.

In the US, teams are moved from one city and one state to another on a regular basis..

its the team you follow not its location.

What about the franchise that was once South Melbourne.

To those that think I'm a moron because I hate the dorks and want the Hawks to win....go tell someone that gives a fkcu! This is what builds footy rivalries. To add to what I said before, we'll get the Eagles/Dorks, EFFC/SFFC, West Perth/Eagles Reserves and a few other clubs like Carlton/Collingwood/Esserden Peptides and a few others together and have a GROUP HUG!!! FFS.

58shark wrote: To those that think I'm a moron because I hate the dorks and want the Hawks to win....go tell someone that gives a fkcu! This is what builds footy rivalries. To add to what I said before, we'll get the Eagles/Dorks, EFFC/SFFC, West Perth/Eagles Reserves and a few other clubs like Carlton/Collingwood/Esserden Peptides and a few others together and have a GROUP HUG!!! FFS.

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UNKA2 wrote:

58shark wrote: To those that think I'm a moron because I hate the dorks and want the Hawks to win....go tell someone that gives a fkcu! This is what builds footy rivalries. To add to what I said before, we'll get the Eagles/Dorks, EFFC/SFFC, West Perth/Eagles Reserves and a few other clubs like Carlton/Collingwood/Esserden Peptides and a few others together and have a GROUP HUG!!! FFS.

HERE HERE !

I am with you two, I say F. EM , I am hoping someone does a Yates like in the 89 GF and takes Crowelys and that little worms head off after the opening bounce.

How is it when a stupid dorker opens their stupid mouth they always find a way to sledge the Mighty West Coast. You are a joke anchorman and so is your club look at your ducking Walters

Before the Bounce wrote:

UNKA2 wrote:

58shark wrote: To those that think I'm a moron because I hate the dorks and want the Hawks to win....go tell someone that gives a fkcu! This is what builds footy rivalries. To add to what I said before, we'll get the Eagles/Dorks, EFFC/SFFC, West Perth/Eagles Reserves and a few other clubs like Carlton/Collingwood/Esserden Peptides and a few others together and have a GROUP HUG!!! FFS.

HERE HERE !

I am with you two, I say F. EM , I am hoping someone does a Yates like in the 89 GF and takes Crowelys and that little worms head off after the opening bounce.

How is it when a stupid dorker opens their stupid mouth they always find a way to sledge the Mighty West Coast. You are a joke anchorman and so is your club look at your ducking Walters

Haahahahahha! An Eagles supporter slagging off a Dockers player for ducking???? WTF?? Does the name SELWOOD ring a bell??????

anchorman wrote:

joan trieste wrote: Totally agree with bazza - it is the club which happens to be based wherever - the players and coach are from different states. They are not state teams.

Carlton and Collingwood are much older clubs so they have a lot more history and both have been hugely successful. Back in the day Collingwood was a real working class catholic club. Today it is a bit feral with probably the worst behaved fans. Carlton were the toffs. Though that sort of thing is not so relevant today, and of course Carlton has a strong Italian and Greek influence. Collingwood is the most loved club in the land and the most hated.

Freo have bso in the past west coast fans probably just een chronic underachievers felt sorry for them. they had no need to hate fremantle. freo fans of course had a huge inferiority complex. so hungry for success they are happy to watch a team play the most boring footy imaginable. W.A is quite parochial and loves to hate the vics and hawthorn is seen to represent Victoria, the dockers W.A, combine that with next to no media and it seems like the whole state is gunning for the boys in purple (or is that white?).

You really would have to be joking,Feel sorry for us!! FFs get your hand off it.You should see what it is like from this side.Feel sorry for us!!! in your own nightmare sunshine.What a crock of shit.They have hated us since day one, but I couldn't give a fats rats clacker about whether they are going to support us.Go barrack for the Hawks.We don't want you there to help us.
It is funny you know when we were constant losers to the Yellas in out early days, the parasites would want to bet you,even ask for goals in.We,ask good Fremantle, or dumb Fremantle followers, stood by our team and backed them.But what happened to all the Yella bellied parasites when we started to win a few.Their pockets and wallets became non existant. Try and find a Yella supporter now who will back their side in the Derbies.Can't find em even if you give them goals in.

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No sign of an inferiority complex with you anchorman - your side finally makes the grand final and your walking ten foot tall. Remember though come Saturday night there will still be the same figure next to docker premierships won. A big fat zero.

I could not imagine west coast fans envying the dockers. 19 years and 1 grand final appearance, just 5 finals series and 5 finals wins, overall a 43% win ratio. Probably they do feel a bit sorry for the boys in purple. Ironic they say purple is the colour of frustration. Anyway that is a bit of a generalisation just like saying eagles fans or the eagles club has always hated freo. The reality is the dockers have not even been on the radar. A complete lack of success means the only rivalry they enjoy is against west coast - a local rivalry against a club who has forged plenty of rivalries winning flags and finals.

Plenty of people in w.a will get behind the dockers come Saturday and for various reasons. Plenty will be west coast fans.