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Compared to a lot of other G7 clubs on paper over the years, PFC have recruited far better than most...definitely EF at least....ex AFL players in Ross Young, Paul Bevan, Leon Davis, Bateman, Morton x 3, Spaanderman, Graham, Jones, White, Reimers et al....a shed losd more thsn a lot of clubs....equalization the folks want....not too sure the WAFC is responsible for players at Perth not performing, not wanting to stay or not wanting to go there......that surely is a PFC issue, one which they have caused themselves over the years through poor admin, poor coaching, poor man management etc....Wellingham obviously doesn't want to go to Perth for a reason....money yeah maybe....but hey aren't PFC cashed up? , success?.... yeah 40yrs of ongoing failure is pretty toxic for attracting players seeling a quick fix of success....but maybe just maybe Wellingham just DOESN'T want to go to the PFC.


EF woes all started with poor coaching appts with the likes of Dunbar and sadly EF fave in Lester-Smith..that aint the WAFC fault only EFFC fault.....yeah the AFL hasn't helped by cherry picking a truck load of guys who have gone onto elite success for over a decade in the likes of Kennedy, Sandilands, Taylor, McPharlin, Swallow, Ryder, Hooker etc......but come end of the day EF are responsible for their lack of success......can't see how the WAFC is responsible for EF 20 yr hiatus or Perths 40 year failure....

EP picked up McGinnity this year....yet finished out of the finals.....probably will do the same even with Wellingham next year...yes they get freebies every year.....however most of them are straight out of under age footy and the EP coaches are constrained on where they play, how long they can play for etc.....irrespective of the match dynamics....

Yep totally understand changes need to be made to equalize the comp.....but not sure directly stopping players freedom to play where they want to play is the way forward....helping Perth back to the power of 60s and 70's would be fantastic...but pretty sure Subi was pretty shite then....did Perth folk campaign for Subi equalization then?......

anchorman wrote: Loook I am not disagreeing with what you are saying, all that concerns me is the fact that basically everyone here doesn't think that Wellingham shouldn't have a say in where he wants to play.
Does that mean that every AFL listed player, who plays for Peel or EP can not say that they want to stay there to continue their football career!!!!
Does that mean they will have to sign a piece of paper to say they wont!!!!
The lawyers will have a field day.
Like all here I don't know the answer, but the above is certainly not the way to go.
And I will reserve my right, regardless of whether I go to WAFL games to have my say.

Even your beloved AFL competition has an equalisation policy, but our supposed custodians the WAFC of the WAFL competition just sits and does nothing ....

The other issue is Anchor remember we the WAFL lovers reserve our right to have our say in your beloved AFL competition. That might mean that our views are sometimes not going to be similar to yours so suck it up....

It cuts both ways.When Blayne Wilson was delisted by West Coast he saw no point in going back to Peel and not guareented to be best 22 so he went to Souths.Same this year with Nick Kommer.Why didn't he come back to East Perth and instead go to East Fremantle.Maybe realised he might not be guareented a game every week.Maybe we need another rule that any delisted Peel or East Perth player must play for them but as anchor says players have the right to make some decisions.

Players need to abide by the rules of the competition they play in, whether it zones, contracts, clearances then certain rules apply so it’s not simple enough to say any person who plays wafl can play where they want.
Unless of course you want to play for EP or Peel and the wafc apply their own rules like they have in this case.

Freezin wrote: Compared to a lot of other G7 clubs on paper over the years, PFC have recruited far better than most...definitely EF at least....ex AFL players in Ross Young, Paul Bevan, Leon Davis, Bateman, Morton x 3, Spaanderman, Graham, Jones, White, Reimers et al....a shed losd more thsn a lot of clubs....equalization the folks want....not too sure the WAFC is responsible for players at Perth not performing, not wanting to stay or not wanting to go there......that surely is a PFC issue, one which they have caused themselves over the years through poor admin, poor coaching, poor man management etc....Wellingham obviously doesn't want to go to Perth for a reason....money yeah maybe....but hey aren't PFC cashed up? , success?.... yeah 40yrs of ongoing failure is pretty toxic for attracting players seeling a quick fix of success....but maybe just maybe Wellingham just DOESN'T want to go to the PFC.


EF woes all started with poor coaching appts with the likes of Dunbar and sadly EF fave in Lester-Smith..that aint the WAFC fault only EFFC fault.....yeah the AFL hasn't helped by cherry picking a truck load of guys who have gone onto elite success for over a decade in the likes of Kennedy, Sandilands, Taylor, McPharlin, Swallow, Ryder, Hooker etc......but come end of the day EF are responsible for their lack of success......can't see how the WAFC is responsible for EF 20 yr hiatus or Perths 40 year failure....

EP picked up McGinnity this year....yet finished out of the finals.....probably will do the same even with Wellingham next year...yes they get freebies every year.....however most of them are straight out of under age footy and the EP coaches are constrained on where they play, how long they can play for etc.....irrespective of the match dynamics....

Yep totally understand changes need to be made to equalize the comp.....but not sure directly stopping players freedom to play where they want to play is the way forward....helping Perth back to the power of 60s and 70's would be fantastic...but pretty sure Subi was pretty shite then....did Perth folk campaign for Subi equalization then?......

Freez....that is the most succinct and well reasoned post I've read on here in a long time. Every point was absolutely on the money...good job.

Freeze i havent blamed the WAFC for Perth's 40 years of crap.

Re Wellingham imo the rule has to change how the aligned clubs make up there player quota combined with there AFL listed players available each week.
Wellingham would under a rule change have 6 other clubs (counting Perth out) that he could have gone to.
If he doesnt want to play for us thats our bad luck.

Re Subi and equalisation yeah i gave on more than one occassion to the tin rattlers that used to stand out front of the Goddard street entrance and that was on match days Subi werent playing there.
Plus Subi were not competing against 2 AFL clubs plus they have certainly made up for it now in finals,flags and got away with payments to players thats certainly been questionable.

MarkOlsen wrote: Players need to abide by the rules of the competition they play in, whether it zones, contracts, clearances then certain rules apply so it’s not simple enough to say any person who plays wafl can play where they want.
Unless of course you want to play for EP or Peel and the wafc apply their own rules like they have in this case.[/quote

I am sure one of the perimeters that the Wafc put down from day one was if either aligned clubs were struggling on the field they could go apply for a recruit.We did not make the five and looked ordinary even with 13-15 eagles players.The biggest problem was lack of experience and leadership especially with Mitch Fraser ending his season virtually from game one.Wellingham will help to fill a void adding experience and hopefully leadership which is lacking from the younger eagles players.Only time we had some leadership was when a few more mature players played or us like the game down at freo when hutchings,petrie and a few others got us over the line.

Fuck me Chaddy.
EP struggling?
Shit may be some of your aligned players don't want to play for EP.
Maybe that is the reason they play so badly.
Maybe we need to time games so you can play some of their first choice players when they get back.
Poor old EP.
WAFL priority should be to ensure premierships for Peel or EP every year.

yeh, poor old EP, what an absolute crock.
does every team that misses the 5 each year get recruiting concessions ?

Chaddy I think folk get confused because you are on an AFL list and you aren't playing AFL footy that you are gonna come and dominate the next level comp....ask the Perth boys how the likes of Pitt, Stevenson, Bollenhagen, Ruffles, Drum et al were at the WAFL level.....most of then came as skinny unproven youngsters at senior footy, were they WAFL elite?....no different to the likes of Waterman, Bayok, Veneables, Rotham etc currently at EP right now.....all skinny youngsters finding their feet at senior level......yeah they are getting fast tracked fitness wise, but still need to make that jump from colts to senior footy......can see why experienced players like McGinnity and Wellingham will be needed to guide their development......especially since the likes of Moss, Lee, Fraser, Clutterbuck et al have moved on.

Is it possible Wellingham didn't want to go back to Perth because he thought the club was on a hiding to no where and still light years away from being successful......surely wasn't a money thing, heard that Perth threw a lot of coin at all those EF signings yet they went to EF for less?.....how stupid is that...LOL