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BTW Marsh has signed with $ubi , in the West today

Falcon wrote:

BC wrote:

Beasley Hutton wrote: It has been reported Marsh has been signed by none other than $ubiaco!
What an absolute laughable competition the WAFL has turned into under the current WAFC!
2 questions are how on earth would the undefeated $ubiaco fit him into their “salary cap” and why on earth do they need him I didn’t see any deficiencies in their defence and didn’t they not only go undefeated in the League but won the Reserves and by default the Colts as well?
Interesting to note the WAFC haven’t released the results from their survey some months back probably to embarrassed too with the home truths told about them!

I read the article in the West and it sounds pretty definitive but will wait until something concrete comes out as after all, our good mate Leedy reckoned we'd picked up Nelson and Moulton as well which turned out to be a load of crap. You'd always like to recruit good players straight out of the AFL system but to be honest, we'd have to see a few retirements to fit him into the salary and points cap. Maybe that has happened but not made public knowledge....we'll find out in the fullness of time I guess. If it is correct then it just adds more weight to my argument that a rule should be brought in whereby clubs can't recruit players from other clubs that finish below them in the season just completed including those returning from the AFL. As Marsh was drafted from EF, only EF should be able to sign him considering they finished last. Or perhaps players coming from clubs below attract a points premium, Marsh will be worth 10 points currently...maybe that should be 15 as he was originally from EF a club that finished below Subi in 2018. That way it takes any restraint of trade issues out of the equation.

Good points BC players like him should be 15 points and the points are too high and should be reduced as most clubs cannot use them all up anyway, we need equilization in this comp ffs

What should happen is that if any team makes the grand final especially all three and wins should not be able to recruit.you would think they would have some players who could walk straight into their league side.Even without recruiting subi will be premiership favourites this year.

chaddy22 wrote:

Falcon wrote:

BC wrote:

Beasley Hutton wrote: It has been reported Marsh has been signed by none other than $ubiaco!
What an absolute laughable competition the WAFL has turned into under the current WAFC!
2 questions are how on earth would the undefeated $ubiaco fit him into their “salary cap” and why on earth do they need him I didn’t see any deficiencies in their defence and didn’t they not only go undefeated in the League but won the Reserves and by default the Colts as well?
Interesting to note the WAFC haven’t released the results from their survey some months back probably to embarrassed too with the home truths told about them!

I read the article in the West and it sounds pretty definitive but will wait until something concrete comes out as after all, our good mate Leedy reckoned we'd picked up Nelson and Moulton as well which turned out to be a load of crap. You'd always like to recruit good players straight out of the AFL system but to be honest, we'd have to see a few retirements to fit him into the salary and points cap. Maybe that has happened but not made public knowledge....we'll find out in the fullness of time I guess. If it is correct then it just adds more weight to my argument that a rule should be brought in whereby clubs can't recruit players from other clubs that finish below them in the season just completed including those returning from the AFL. As Marsh was drafted from EF, only EF should be able to sign him considering they finished last. Or perhaps players coming from clubs below attract a points premium, Marsh will be worth 10 points currently...maybe that should be 15 as he was originally from EF a club that finished below Subi in 2018. That way it takes any restraint of trade issues out of the equation.

Good points BC players like him should be 15 points and the points are too high and should be reduced as most clubs cannot use them all up anyway, we need equilization in this comp ffs

What should happen is that if any team makes the grand final especially all three and wins should not be able to recruit.you would think they would have some players who could walk straight into their league side.Even without recruiting subi will be premiership favourites this year.

That comment is one for the hall of shame or stupidity, if a club is able to pull that off then sobeit.the reserves and colts where based on hard work not like the league which was hard work, good coaching and money!

Grump wrote:

chaddy22 wrote:

Falcon wrote:

BC wrote:

Beasley Hutton wrote: It has been reported Marsh has been signed by none other than $ubiaco!
What an absolute laughable competition the WAFL has turned into under the current WAFC!
2 questions are how on earth would the undefeated $ubiaco fit him into their “salary cap” and why on earth do they need him I didn’t see any deficiencies in their defence and didn’t they not only go undefeated in the League but won the Reserves and by default the Colts as well?
Interesting to note the WAFC haven’t released the results from their survey some months back probably to embarrassed too with the home truths told about them!

I read the article in the West and it sounds pretty definitive but will wait until something concrete comes out as after all, our good mate Leedy reckoned we'd picked up Nelson and Moulton as well which turned out to be a load of crap. You'd always like to recruit good players straight out of the AFL system but to be honest, we'd have to see a few retirements to fit him into the salary and points cap. Maybe that has happened but not made public knowledge....we'll find out in the fullness of time I guess. If it is correct then it just adds more weight to my argument that a rule should be brought in whereby clubs can't recruit players from other clubs that finish below them in the season just completed including those returning from the AFL. As Marsh was drafted from EF, only EF should be able to sign him considering they finished last. Or perhaps players coming from clubs below attract a points premium, Marsh will be worth 10 points currently...maybe that should be 15 as he was originally from EF a club that finished below Subi in 2018. That way it takes any restraint of trade issues out of the equation.

Good points BC players like him should be 15 points and the points are too high and should be reduced as most clubs cannot use them all up anyway, we need equilization in this comp ffs

What should happen is that if any team makes the grand final especially all three and wins should not be able to recruit.you would think they would have some players who could walk straight into their league side.Even without recruiting subi will be premiership favourites this year.

That comment is one for the hall of shame or stupidity, if a club is able to pull that off then sobeit.the reserves and colts where based on hard work not like the league which was hard work, good coaching and money!

The excuse subi has used for their recruiting bonanza was that they didn't have a good metro or country zone.It was only a few years ago they cried foul about their zone which meant that they grabbed east perth areas of us and meant that swans lost Ellenbrook to compensate east perth and annoyed certain swans supporters.Both the points and salary caps have been bought in to weaken subi but have failed.

Spot on Chaddy.
As a consequence for the nonsense that $ubi squealed and sooked that they had supposedly had a bad zone other clubs have suffered in having their zones reduced to improve $ubi (like they needed it) when in reality $ubi have had a good zone but do not utilise it and instead continue to recruit from outside year after year after year. If the WAFC had any idea whatsoever they would put an end to this nonsense and return to previous allocated zone but not whilst Scandall is still there!

Looks like Hampson is on the outer at EF....wearing number 99 on the EFFC website....along with the Marsh boys and Paparone....

Say what you like about recruiting but there is something fundamentally wrong with a competition where the undefeated premiers of 2018 are permitted to recruit a player developed in the zone of the club which finished bottom of the ladder in the same year. You don't blame the player because he is just looking for the best deal he can get. You don't blame the recruiting club because they are not breaking any rules. The WAFC is where the responsibility lies for turning this competition into a complete joke.

mikeh wrote: Say what you like about recruiting but there is something fundamentally wrong with a competition where the undefeated premiers of 2018 are permitted to recruit a player developed in the zone of the club which finished bottom of the ladder in the same year. You don't blame the player because he is just looking for the best deal he can get. You don't blame the recruiting club because they are not breaking any rules. The WAFC is where the responsibility lies for turning this competition into a complete joke.

MikeH there are plenty of similar instances and there was nary a bleat abt them but when a club who can afford to and has a better reputation can there is a bleat. Yes it is sad that Harry is not playing for EF but it is more abt his heritage with the club.

Grump wrote:

mikeh wrote: Say what you like about recruiting but there is something fundamentally wrong with a competition where the undefeated premiers of 2018 are permitted to recruit a player developed in the zone of the club which finished bottom of the ladder in the same year. You don't blame the player because he is just looking for the best deal he can get. You don't blame the recruiting club because they are not breaking any rules. The WAFC is where the responsibility lies for turning this competition into a complete joke.

MikeH there are plenty of similar instances and there was nary a bleat abt them but when a club who can afford to and has a better reputation can there is a bleat. Yes it is sad that Harry is not playing for EF but it is more abt his heritage with the club.

Grump the problem is there is an existential threat to the WAFL. The threat is the continuing domination by Subiaco that does not appear to be cyclical in nature or is likely to finish anytime soon. When you take into consideration the changes that have been foisted on the WAFL clubs by the WAFC in concert with a completely dominant Subiaco do you seriously think that WAFL supporters are going to continue to support the competition when nothing is going to change?

The WAFC has chosen to support East Perth to ensure they are competitive in the wake of East Perth's decision to align with the Eagles and the financial benefits that they have accrued as a consequence of that alignment. What support has the WAFC given to improve Perth's lot over the past few years?

mikeh wrote: Say what you like about recruiting but there is something fundamentally wrong with a competition where the undefeated premiers of 2018 are permitted to recruit a player developed in the zone of the club which finished bottom of the ladder in the same year. You don't blame the player because he is just looking for the best deal he can get. You don't blame the recruiting club because they are not breaking any rules. The WAFC is where the responsibility lies for turning this competition into a complete joke.

mikeh I won't repeat my comments that I posted in response to Grump's post other than to add that I wholeheartedly agree that the WAFC should be leading the way. However, whilst all clubs have a primary consideration of looking after their club they also have a secondary consideration toward the long term viability of the WAFL competition as well. It is this secondary consideration that Subiaco has completed ignored to the detriment of the WAFL competition.