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Does the GG need to sack the Turnbull government? 6 years 3 weeks ago #143349

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Clive Palmer is back on his horse and leaner and meaner than before and he's been given the perfect template to shake the foundations of Australian politics to the core.


I would rather the horse for PM than Palmer.


And I got quite the chuckle about the bit where Palmer fights for workers, I'm sure the workers at the nickel refinery in Townsville concur.
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Does the GG need to sack the Turnbull government? 6 years 3 weeks ago #143359

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anchorman wrote: By the GG, you really mean Betty,don't you.
1975 all over again.Nothing has changed.


No Betty isn't able to sack the Australian Federal government. Only the GG can do that.


That's one and the same swan. Let's sack the GG and let the Australian people decide who comes and who goes in OUR country. It's a pity MT is out of his depth because we'll end up with another very crooked PM. Seems to be a common thread in the ALP, doesn't it?
2x25= Seinor and Michael = 1xBrian Peake

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Does the GG need to sack the Turnbull government? 6 years 3 weeks ago #143380

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58shark wrote:

swan42 wrote:

anchorman wrote: By the GG, you really mean Betty,don't you.
1975 all over again.Nothing has changed.


No Betty isn't able to sack the Australian Federal government. Only the GG can do that.


That's one and the same swan. Let's sack the GG and let the Australian people decide who comes and who goes in OUR country. It's a pity MT is out of his depth because we'll end up with another very crooked PM. Seems to be a common thread in the ALP, doesn't it?


With the greatest of respect 58s they are not the same. Whet Kerr did as Australian GG betty could NOT HAVE done.

Malcolm Turnbull's problem is that he has completely prostituted all his principles to ensure he remains as PM.

With respect to sacking the government and let the people decide, I distinctly recall people applauding the sacking of Gough Whitlam because it allowed the people to decide. What sort of government is it when you have the then Deputy PM threatening to roll the PM (who just happens to belong to a different party)?

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Does the GG need to sack the Turnbull government? 6 years 3 weeks ago #143400

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swan42 wrote: Breaking news on Sky News: Barnaby Joyce threatened, prior to his resignation, to team up with Tony Abbott to get the numbers to roll Malcolm Turnbull.

Surely the GG needs to sack the Turnbull government and let the Australian public decide who should govern Australia.


Your knowledge of constitutional law is right up there with your knowledge of footy, primary school level.

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Does the GG need to sack the Turnbull government? 6 years 3 weeks ago #143409

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swan42 wrote: Breaking news on Sky News: Barnaby Joyce threatened, prior to his resignation, to team up with Tony Abbott to get the numbers to roll Malcolm Turnbull.

Surely the GG needs to sack the Turnbull government and let the Australian public decide who should govern Australia.


Your knowledge of constitutional law is right up there with your knowledge of footy, primary school level.


I don't have to put up this crap from you Bazza.

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Does the GG need to sack the Turnbull government? 6 years 3 weeks ago #143419

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For those who dont know the facts:
On October 16, 1975, the Senate resolved that it would not pass supply until the Whitlam government agreed to call a general election. This meant the Commonwealth would soon run out of money to pay public servants, provide pensions, pay its contractors, and provide services. The Whitlam government decided to tough it out in the hope the Coalition opposition would collapse.
Because the Christmas holidays were approaching, the last day to initiate a pre-Christmas election was November 13, 1975. If that deadline was missed, there would potentially be months of economic chaos with no money to run the government and pay salaries or pensions until February.

On the morning of November 11, Opposition Leader Malcolm Fraser told Gough Whitlam the Opposition would pass supply if Whitlam agreed to hold an election for both houses in May or June 1976. Whitlam refused.

Instead, Whitlam went to the Governor-General, Sir John Kerr, to seek a half-Senate election in December. This would not have been likely to resolve the impasse, and would have been particularly problematic if supply was not granted to cover the election period.

When Whitlam declined to request a general election, Kerr exercised his reserve powers by dismissing Whitlam and his government from office. He then appointed Fraser as prime minister on the condition that he secure the passage of supply, advise the dissolution of both houses of parliament, and call an election in December.

Kerr also stipulated that Fraser’s government must only be a caretaker government that would not make any major appointments or undertake any inquiries or investigations into the Whitlam government. The Senate passed the supply bills and once assent was given to them, both Houses were immediately dissolved.
And that's how it happened.
Lack of funds & NOT lack of Leadership.
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Does the GG need to sack the Turnbull government? 6 years 3 weeks ago #143420

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...and resulted in Gough getting turfed out in a landslide....

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Does the GG need to sack the Turnbull government? 6 years 3 weeks ago #143421

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In other words Sir John Kerr was the only person whom could save the day and he did, given the bad behaviour of both sides of parliament.

His lordship has the confidence of the House so he can govern. r

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Does the GG need to sack the Turnbull government? 6 years 3 weeks ago #143422

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Malcolm is not a good PM.But those in the libs muat be crazy to give T Abbot another go.

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Does the GG need to sack the Turnbull government? 6 years 3 weeks ago #143431

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swan42 wrote:

58shark wrote:

swan42 wrote:

anchorman wrote: By the GG, you really mean Betty,don't you.
1975 all over again.Nothing has changed.


No Betty isn't able to sack the Australian Federal government. Only the GG can do that.


That's one and the same swan. Let's sack the GG and let the Australian people decide who comes and who goes in OUR country. It's a pity MT is out of his depth because we'll end up with another very crooked PM. Seems to be a common thread in the ALP, doesn't it?


With the greatest of respect 58s they are not the same. Whet Kerr did as Australian GG betty could NOT HAVE done.

Malcolm Turnbull's problem is that he has completely prostituted all his principles to ensure he remains as PM.

With respect to sacking the government and let the people decide, I distinctly recall people applauding the sacking of Gough Whitlam because it allowed the people to decide. What sort of government is it when you have the then Deputy PM threatening to roll the PM (who just happens to belong to a different party)?


Swan a bit like Juliar's unshakable belief in the correctness of a carbon tax when she quickly traded in her limited stocks of ethics after seeing it wouldn't fly politically for her and would threaten her hold on the position of PM.

As for Shortarses offer of money in lieu of our rightful GST, while it's welcome, he still lacks courage just the same as the Libs do regarding correcting the morally bankrupt way the GST is currently distributed.

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