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Love him or hate him its an interesting topic mr trump.

I was in the USA recently, and they love him. the common response when I asked why do you like him so much, he is a bloody idiot was
"He runs the country like a CEO, and not like an old fashioned politician." yes he may upset a few people but he has put the wishes of the USA first and foremost on everything he does, and they like that.

Most of them still think he wont last his term though, because they all feel he will get to upset with not getting his way and needing everything to pass through congress. He is like a spoilt kid in that regard

premiership hangover wrote: Love him or hate him its an interesting topic mr trump.

I was in the USA recently, and they love him. the common response when I asked why do you like him so much, he is a bloody idiot was
"He runs the country like a CEO, and not like an old fashioned politician." yes he may upset a few people but he has put the wishes of the USA first and foremost on everything he does, and they like that.

Most of them still think he wont last his term though, because they all feel he will get to upset with not getting his way and needing everything to pass through congress. He is like a spoilt kid in that regard

Well if they love him so much why did it take just eight days for him to gain a majority disapproval rating? according to Gallup, with 51 per cent of Americans saying they disapproved of the President on January 28, 2016.
Historically, it has usually taken American presidents hundreds of days before they reach a majority disapproval rating.
This has been the case for the last five presidents – with Bill Clinton lasting 573 days before more than 50 per cent of Americans disapproved of his presidency.
But Donald Trump smashed this record after he took office with the lowest approval rating of any recent president.

Anyway, getting back on topic, these flogs want to wipe away all acknowledgement of British/European heritage in this country. Yes everyone knows that the first migrants on this continent were treated horrendously by the British when they arrived as the 2nd wave of migrants. That happens every time a more technically advanced society meets a less technically advanced society. But things like the battle of Pinjarra happened nearly 200 years ago. It needs to be remembered and correctly recorded in our history but on the other hand that part of our history that applies to the establishment of the British colonies also needs to acknowledged and correctly recorded in an even and balanced manner. We all live in a very comfortable and safe place and those who struggle financially or health wise have a safety net that supports them, it ain't perfect but it's there. These left wing tree hugging apologists for everything that's non indigenous need to flick that chip off their shoulders and recognize that all religious and ethnic groups have made a contribution to our state and nation. Stirling may have done some bad things, that weren't viewed as bad back in his era, but he also made a massive contribution to the development of this state.

Pinjarra has been blown out of proportion

Basically James Stirling had been away in England, while he was away the security situation was let slip, there were a series of murders of settlers and thefts from farms etc, On his return he found that people pretty worried about the situation and the fact nothing had been done about it, the offenders had been able to wander back into the bush unaccounted for it and people didn't fell real safe, remember there were only a few folk in the whole state and it was isolated from any help. Anyway on his return he decided to put a force together of 25 people, hardly what you would call a army, a few soldiers some police and some vollies, that was about the most they could muster in 1834, they headed down the Murray river as the people responsible for the murders were spotted there, when they came across them , an exchange happened , spears got thrown and shots got fired , one solider was speared one knocked off his horse and later died, the gun fire killed a certain number of Aboriginals - most accounts say between 10 and 15 , some say up to 100 - which would be pure fantasy as your talking 20 odd old breach loading muskets which fire very slow. Anyway it was a one sided slaughter in the end, that's what happened when modern technology meets the stone age.

SS: Stirling did make a massive contribution, he did more than that: he founded the bloody place. We would not be here without the British. Let us keep it simple.

Bazza is quite correct, there was very little security presence in the colony in the early 1830s, maybe 100 soldiers. We need to keep in mind that those soldiers were spread out from Albany to Northhampton, the British of the day simply defended their colony

Similar to Aboriginal people of the time they tried to defend their colony/ country , unfortunately the result was a lot of move on notices (massacres , battles) whatever you want to call them.
The question is IMO just record the Colonial history in a truthful manner for what it was

www.australianstogether.org.au/stories/detail/frontier-violence

Dwert -- you are right about the Aboriginals defending thier land; but no one is talking about taking dowan Yagan's statue are they?

ArkRoyal wrote: Dwert -- you are right about the Aboriginals defending thier land; but no one is talking about taking dowan Yagan's statue are they?

Not yet arkroyal. but fair question

Dwert -- thanks: that question just occurred to me today. We have got stuff to remember the Aboriginal chaps. Naturally the people whom want to tear down Stirling -- being lefties -- will want the statue of yagan to remain.

Yagan was a murderer of at least two people, one was a 14 yr old boy he killed in cold blood undefended trapped in a hut, he was captured and sentenced to death, but the British decided that although he had killed, he was defending his lands, so commuted the sentence to imprisonment on carnac island, he ended up being released and returned to Perth area, that doenst sound like an administration engaged in genocide to me.