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Wes Lammie 10 years 8 months ago #20887

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MacAttack wrote: After Singleton's obvious inside information about the situation how is any of you morons still questioning Wes?

This is a blatantly obvious example of Harding failing again. It is a known fact players dont trust a word that comes out of his mouth. Regardless of Wes being given the number one ruck role he does not owe harding anything. Wes was playing 70% as well as Llane but Llane was training when he pleased and costing the club big money with no committment.

Singo's post is a perfect example of Hardings failure (which has gone on far too long) to be trusted and respected by the players. It would be fair to say most players will start of respecting any new coach. So we can make up our own minds why over 3 or so seasons there is none there.

I believe that Wes's character being questioned by the coach and that guy Smart should have all you forum lovers questioning them, not Wes.

Do you think this would of happened with brian dawson in charge? thats the question you should ask yourself. Along with all the other failings over the last few years.
If Dawson was coach - most wouldnt even be thinkable.


Macattack I have seen no evidence of a lack of faith shown to Lammie by Harding. How do you explain last year's performances if you are saying that Harding does not have the support of the players?

Also, how do you explain some of our better performances this year, given that you have said that none of the players are supportive of Harding?
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Wes Lammie 10 years 8 months ago #20888

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Singleton wrote: Wes Lammie did not leave because he was told he was playing reserves. He knew he couldn't return from injury and walk straight back in to the league side and was prepared to play reserves.

Harding questioned Wes's injury, character and commitment to the club which Wes took great offence to as Wes is the hardest working and most committed player at swans.

People may say "but Wes went to Peel a few years ago"...my response to that is that all Wes wants to do is play the best football he can. He commits so much time and effort to football. When he made the decision to try with Peel he was completing against Spaanderman for the #1 ruck spot at Swans. Llane would walk in and out and of the club; dish up crap and still be given the #1 spot, so who could blame Wes for wanting to try and get the best out of his football somewhere else. Llane held that #1 ruck man title and with that title came credit, so if Wes and Llane were both fit, Llane would get the nod over Wes because he was #1. Wes asked the question that if he made it through the week in the reserves and has a good game does he come in...? Put it this way, if this weeks game was a grand final who would be playing if both ruck man were fit?? If your answer isn't Wes then your kidding yourself.

There are always things at a football club that are behind closed doors that happen that most will probably never hear or know about, but in this case there are other factors at play. There are always 2 sides to every story, so lets find out both sides and stop labelling Wes as a bad person or disloyal to the club he puts so much time and effort in to.

Has anyone actually spoken to Greg or Wes about this???


So in essence you are saying Lammie asked Harding whether he was going to be guaranteed a league game against Perth and because Harding, from your comments above, did not guarantee that Lammie would be playing league this Saturday he left the club.
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Wes Lammie 10 years 8 months ago #20918

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What part of "He knew he couldn't return from injury and walk straight back in to the league side and was prepared to play reserves" and "Harding questioned Wes's injury, character and commitment to the club" suggests that?

Nothing whatsoever from Singleton suggests that Wes left because he wouldn't be assured a league game, quite the opposite in fact.
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Wes Lammie 10 years 8 months ago #20920

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so he left cos the coach had a go at him ?
jeez, as i posted earlier - lucky Toddy isnt around - we wouldnt have a team !!
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Wes Lammie 10 years 8 months ago #20922

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Sounds to me like it's more the straw that broke the camels back.
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Wes Lammie 10 years 8 months ago #20926

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once again, lucky Toddy wasnt coaching - remember a picture in the west of him having Alan Cransberg the Eagles chairman by the throat at a huddle one day !
he stayed and played in 2 flags, how times have changed and blokes have become more sensitive, no doubt about it..
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Wes Lammie 10 years 8 months ago #20929

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Of course they have. It's much more professional these days.

If they're to conduct themselves in a professional manner then it's perfectly reasonable they expect the coaching staff to do so as well.

There would be mass outcry if a coach was to throttle a player these days.
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Wes Lammie 10 years 8 months ago #20936

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there wouldnt be an outcry from the supporters i watch the game with, some of the players need to harden up a bit..
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Wes Lammie 10 years 8 months ago #20937

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MarkOlsen wrote: there wouldnt be an outcry from the supporters i watch the game with, some of the players need to harden up a bit..


There is always going to be a section of the community that has a different view of things and/or are stuck in the past.

But if you think the WAFL or the wider community would condone a coach throttling a player, you're kidding yourself.

Imagine the kids/juniors or their parents seeing that. Disgusting. Terrible for the image and the promotion of the WAFL - let's face it, we can hardly afford such bad press or perceptions.
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Wes Lammie 10 years 8 months ago #20940

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doesnt seem to have hurt Alan Cransberg in life, lucky he didnt run off back to Busselton hey Underdog !

anyway, getting off the topic..Lammie's gone, if he doesnt want to play for Swans then so be it..
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