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Think most EF fans can deal with those mental scars of Wiley the footy player...he scarred a lot of opposition fans....because the fella was a champ....the mental scarring from Wiley the coach will never heal.... because he was really a major disappointment for someone of his experience.....playing and coaching.....tho the Dunbar years were much worse.....biggest EF coaching stuff up in my time ad an EF fan....though ex SF boy Ken Smith was a beauty from memory....